They’re neither mutually exclusive alternatives nor universal.
I don’t see a thing wrong when someone is looking out for themselves. We all have to, at somepoint or another or we won’t know how to survive on ourselves when situations boil down to just us alone.
Now as far as bonding together and getting mutually along with eachother to co-exist without bumping eachother or touching people’s buttons? yeah that’s a tricky one and usually makes everyone fall apart. The societal and political climates of today seems destined to break those bonds.
Various factions would like us to feel isolated and helpless so we can be manipulated more easily. All of the things you mentioned still exist and have meaning, but there are alternative meanings being pushed at us. And we not everyone has a community or family in the traditional senses anymore.
If you want to be a member of a community, you can. There are many available in most places, and there are more on the internet that are not limited by location. Find a group of people with common values, common interests, or anything else that ties you together and participate in it. Humans evolved to be social animals.
Human interconnections are a threat to the power that be. Individuals are easy to deal with via manipulation, intimidation, or incarceration. All of that becomes harder with groups, and the larger the group, the harder it is. That is also why we see so many efforts to subdivide us by race, culture, nationality, generation, education, income, religion, gender, gender preference, sexual preference. The less unified we feel, and the more we view the people around us as “other” instead of part of our community, the less able to we are to band together to form an effective threat to the ruling class.
Clan never really meant anything even in Scotland. All that tartan shit was invented by Sir Walter Scott as tourist fodder.
Neither - the words you mentioned are usually employed by people wanting to take advantage of you.
Distancing from it is a self-preservation thing, and sometimes a moral thing. People don’t like being played, or doing bad things because someone told them it’s for family/clan/country/etc.This is the most realistic answer here.
Life and society is not some overly simplistic monolith as you’re alluding to. People have been selfish in the past just like there are communities today. Change your social circle. Try moving, try new groups, try something different. Community still exists in various forms.
I’m pretty sure “conmunity” does indeed not mean anything and never has.
Isn’t a conmunity just prison?
I have a friend who lives in a “bad neighbourhood”. Everyone looks out for one another. Harm anyone in that street and you’re in deep shit.
My aunt also lived in a close community. When she died, they had to hire security to guard houses because the entire neighbourhood was at her funeral. She and her husband had looked after them, they’d looked after her after my uncle died.
The human race will not survive without empathy and community.
I dont agree here. Community has meant something and still does. Im in several communities and would do a lot for a lot of people in said communities.
Hell, if you start looking at asia communities tends to have even more meaning…
EDIT: derp, didnt see the n in there lawl
read it again, I quoted a typo by OP, there’s not actually a letter “n” in the word “community”
commu>n<ity
ok fair point :D
Oh fair, didnt see that haha
“Conmunity” =/= “Community”.
‘Conmunity’ is what the US is now, right?
Unfortunately.
I’m going to heavily disagree. Community is the only thing we have now. it’s the giant mesh of friends and connections that is stronger than any single node. But you only get out of it what you put into it.
I’m currently a week away from leaving the US, and the loss of my community is one of the biggest things I’ve been mourning. That said, my community has also been absolutely instrumental in helping me through this.
Edit: I missed the typo in OP’s
Yeah. I’m staying with a friend after fleeing a red state. I miss my old community of trusted friends back there, but I’m relying on trusted friends here. And once I settle here I’m gonna build a trusted community here too.
A lot of the cultural zeitgeist has moved away from getting to know your neighbors and getting out and doing things and meeting people. But they are very worth doing
Duck!
That was close, @[email protected]’s post almost landed on you.
Certain groups use it as a coded word, which sounds like they’re talking about a general area, but what they actually mean is their race/religious community.
The words have meaning. Of that. We can be certain. But I think you’re asking about people’s values, and doesn’t that always depend on the people in question?
Of course everything depends on the situation, but I see people supporting their family and community on a regular basis. It’s so obvious that many people really do want to make life better for people around them. It’s not like they do that 24/7. On the other hand, there are a lot of selfish assholes who only think about themselves out there, too. And some people will talk about community for selfish reasons, too.
It’s been like this my entire life. I don’t see things degenerating. But I don’t live where you live, I don’t know the people you know.
You mentioned the word country, but I have no idea what sort of background you have. Were you raised to be hyper patriotic? I think patriotism is generally evil because it frequently leads to nationalism and therefore racism and xenophobia. So if you’re suggesting that there is less patriotism in the world, then I think it’s a good thing.
Yes, they do. That’s why so many people are struggling mentally in the “most developed countries”. The capitalistic society, centering around “me”, we build up in the west is contradictory to the human herd mentality.
The inadvertent typo of “Conmunity” is GOLD.
If it doesn’t mean something, it SHOULD. ;)
It’s the bond between incarcerated people.
Idk, I think people are showing their needs of belonging more than in a long time, be it nationalistic or political or ideological or religious or social media cliques or influencer following or family or heritage or skin colour or sports teams. Because these are dynamic times, so the tribal Us vs Them is way ahead in the front before other primal urges and basic needs.
Here in secular Sweden with the probably most inclusive state church in the world, they have found that young people are showing interest in religion more than in generations, except they don’t want the all-inclusive “woke” church but prefer more traditional and fundamentalist flavours.
Community is absolutely still a real thing. In my experience, however, you have to be willing to step outside of the mainstream and you have to be willing to touch grass every now and then. Socializing IRL is completely different than socializing online, which is different than socializing in VR, or in voice chat, or so on.
That said, there absolutely is a case to be made for idea that “community” being slowly ground into dust, possibly intentionally so. The death of open gathering places, the rise of online-only interaction and so forth, erodes at the kind of socialization you need in order to build a community. My tinfoil hat theory is that it’s easier to sow division in the unruly masses and keep them at each other’s throats when everyone is alone, so the rich and powerful have an incentive to kill the concept of community so that it’s harder to rise up against them.
At this point, I believe the places where you’re most likely to find a strong sense of community will be within marginalized groups; people who’ve traditionally been downtrodden tend to band together for protection, relationships and support.
Community in America means viewing the same website, buying items from the same company, or having a similar personal attribute to someone else at this point.
I think we use the word community so much in this country because it doesn’t really exist.
I think so. But regardless of wider society, I’d say be ethical to the degree you can and treat people like you want to be treated. The future isn’t written yet.
A lot of the importance of family and clan in previous generations was due, in part, to the economic need of banding together. It turns out the need for family diminishes when there are other economic alternatives.