footage didn’t do shit against the cops who knocked that old man down and cracked his skull on camera
It barely did anything to Derek Chauvin. What got him convicted was the mass riots and the fact he knew George Floyd beforehand.
So many other people have been killed on camera by cops and those same cops are free and still working in law enforcement.
The Chauvin case reminded me of whenever a soldier gets tried over UCMJ or whatever it’s called. It doesn’t go to trial unless the person in question truly fucked up and throwing them in the chipper is a well-rehearsed defensive move for the institution.
Or any of the shit caught by the cameras literally attached to the police officers lol
Go and take photos of all your fellow protestors faces and upload them to social media so GOP infiltrators can be outed
You should NOT turn on location at a protest, in fact it would be best if you took a burner phone
Famously every authoritarian has lost their grip on power peacefully through demonstrations.
Bluesky libs love the 3.5% myth. An example is a reply.
Nonviolent protests are twice as likely to succeed as armed conflicts – and those engaging a threshold of 3.5% of the population (13 million Americans) have never failed to bring about change.
[Link to BBC article]
the missing ingredient is NED backing!
liberal three-percenters lmfao this country is so cursed
I saw at least two comments like this before I stopped scrolling. This is like peak liberal cope.
How would that even be scientifically determined? Protest movements are rarely a singular thing, some elements are violent, some are peaceful, how does that get categorized? Not to mention, if a country has a violent revolution, and then a neighboring country has a successful peaceful revolution based on the same demands as the violent revolution next door, well technically it’s a successful peaceful revolution. But it’s also blatantly obvious that larger, violent international politics created pressure on the rulers to acquiesce to the peaceful protesters.
Really, the whole argument falls apart because revolutions and protest movements always occur within specific contexts. It can’t be reduced to an average of what worked and go off of that.
It can’t be reduced to an average of what worked and go off of that.
But the libs are sure the no-demands, let’s have fun, orange man bad No Kings protests are working!
Vibes + 3.5% math = facts!I assume nobody wants to read it but here’s the BBC article anyway - https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190513-it-only-takes-35-of-people-to-change-the-world
I found a counter of the study that seems to justify my thoughts:
Through investigation of revolutions in twentieth century Latin America, Lehoucq (2016) discovered that the sample of resistance movements presented by the NAVCO (Nonviolent and Violent Conflict Outcomes) data set suffers from omitted cases of failed nonviolent movements as well as successful violent movements. Others have pointed out that the NAVCO data feature several observational and coding deficiencies pertaining to the dichotomization of violence/nonviolence (Pressman, 2017; Anisin, 2018; Kadivar and Ketchley, 2018). Many campaigns were labeled as being nonviolent when empirically, these movements actually contained a substantial degree of unarmed violence that manifested in the form of rioting, rock throwing, car and building burning, and even the usage of Molotov cocktails.
Fixing the issues, it found the opposite result:
The analysis reveals surprising findings – nonviolence is less effective than previously assumed, while violent insurgency is a bit more effective than assumed, and campaigns featuring reactive unarmed violence and unarmed violence are the most successful of all. To make sense of these results and their implications, subsequent sections of this study present an overview of the soundness of causal mechanisms that have been associated with nonviolent campaign success. It is demonstrated that causal mechanisms that have been linked to nonviolent strategy and campaign success are not necessarily tied to only nonviolent strategies, but are also complimentary to other forms of resistance.
Look at that sign of Trump in a diaper! We’re going to keep non-violently protesting while pushing for zero demands! We’re gonna win!
I dunno. Maybe not?..
Many campaigns were labeled as being nonviolent when empirically, these movements actually contained a substantial degree of unarmed violence that manifested in the form of rioting, rock throwing, car and building burning, and even the usage of Molotov cocktails.
Quite common on lib lemmy instances as well.
These libs never for example, look at Nepal and go, “Hmm… maybe the point is to actually be threatening to the government, and then violently bring them down…”
I don’t think US has the same conditions as Nepal, but the same principle applies to be on the more agitating side of protesting.
Hitler peacefully ceded power when the Red Army peacefully marched through Berlin, peacefully splattering his own prefrontal cortex all over the walls in his peace bunker
I recently finished listening to season 6 of blowback, I bet these clueless would tell you straight faced that Nelson Mandela changed South Africa through non violent action when the main deciding factors were armed struggle by the ANC in South Africa and the wars in Namibia and Angola
love too be lectured to about politics by politically illiterate liberal assholes who only know the sacred lies from seventh grade civics class and think it makes them experts. YOU HAVE NEVER READ A HISTORY BOOK, GO FUCK YOURSELF
Aaron Sorkin has done more damage to America than any foreign entity by normalising and glorifying these types of lib. Then they
'rewere in power, their worldview is mainstream for the Dems, their slogans, their “politeness” (while being smug) and most of all their inadequacy are completely powerless in the face of rising fascism during terminal stage capitalism. This will be noted as one of the key factors of the downfall and, Allah willing, balkanisation of the United States.Comerade Sorkin will be one of the architects of the American Century of Humiliation.
Found this little nugget of joy in the replies
I appreciate that this guy took the time to draw his own political comic on paper and then scanned it poorly and then left the creases and scan lines because they didn’t think to even crop it
Also, I don’t even know what this is trying to say aside from being profoundly racist
Fucking hell, the fact that a living human being made that and thought “this is gonna do numbers on bluesky” is so grim
It’s like an ur-version of that boogaloo one with the two guys fistbumping
My human brain needs beer
Yup. Also turns out (surprise) i don’t know what ur- means. Apparently it means ‘original’. I thought it meant like ‘inverted’ lmao (maybe cos it sounds like 裏 which means opposite side)
This is why bizarro needs to re-enter the common lexicon
Yeah it’s a German word, from “Ursprung”, i.e. “Origin”
Isn’t “Ur” the name of an ancient Mesopotamian city? I always thought it came from that
I see the blue
MAGAsky libs are getting incredibly comfortable embracing their bigotry just like their fascist siblings on TwitterI can’t even figure out the racist part, I don’t get anything about this drawing. Is that weird grey figure supposed to be a black person?
Also, why is part of it in printed letters?
We need to be calling out the “peaceful protest defeats fascism” as the Holocaust denial it is.
What a banger
it’s so cool how capitalism never relies on force
“Erm fuck capitalism too, I’m a secret third thing”
I’m a secret third thing
It’s like the dead dove meme with Third Position always inside
fucking liberals I SWEAR.
Can you literally just fucking read about socialism and communism instead of spouting nonsense in bsky??
How much funding do they think CPUSA and DSA have? If I remember right Dem groups provide way more money/support, since they’ve got real donors and such.
when I read the post, I thought it was making a joke, but I guess not?
never changesShe’s dead serious about shit like that. She’s a bad take machine but her posts are usually dull. I’m hoping she gives me more unintentionally funny stuff though.
Oh, with that “turn on location and film it all” reply I was sure it was satire. bsky, huh
They have back at brunch mindset and users there tend to block everybody who doesn’t agree with them so echo chamber comments aren’t unusual. Yesterday was weird because there was a buzz about “government accounts” and that it was paramount that people “Do not interact with them! Block!” My plan was to ignore the bruhaha because Bluesky drama is so stupid and silly. But pretty soon I had to know what was going on.
I checked my political feeds. Luckily the drama was easy to understand. The Trump administration created two (or more?) brand-new official government accounts. The White House and the State Department and perhaps more. Each account made a couple of bland posts: “We are here for honest debate” type stuff. And - of course - there were surely some rightwing trolls that came over to Bluesky to be racist and hateful or at least annoying. But that’s all.
And now for at least days the libs will be talking on and on and on about how they don’t care what The White House and the State Department say! Not at all! Uh, huh. I see your point and this isn’t high school level drama 'cause you’re totally not thinking about them at all. That’s why there’s post after post about this. “Repost if you have more followers than The White House!”
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Edit
I just saw this “We’re Gonna Win the Posting Wars” post.
They joined Bluesky because they can’t live without your attention. They don’t want to govern, they don’t even really want to “win” in a conventional sense, they just want to play online all day owning libs and it drives them crazy when they lose access to your one wild and precious life.
I can’t block posts like that from my main feeds because the poster only uses pronouns.
If you don’t already know - Jong-Fast is a lib pundit and MSNBC talking head.
Make sure you write down the name and address of every person at the protest and send it to the government so the fascists know how many people disagree with them!
