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    They’re all jacked because back then the keyboards were so stiff and the patch cables were so heavy that joining a network and typing in your login credentials burned more calories than a half marathon

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        To be fair, the more built guys in the scene are what jacked looked like before it was common for normal people to just take steroids. They certainly aren’t what someone that devoted enough time to computer hacking to be the best at it looked like. Since it already takes at least 4 hours a day to look like that without steroids.

        It’s actually pretty funny to see a real power lifter next to a youtube-popular muscle builder, 1/4 the size, but can lift 4x as much. Steroids just make muscles that get in the way of utility. Rather than properly useful muscles.

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          Since it already takes at least 4 hours a day to look like that without steroids.

          No that’s not true. You could train 3 times a week with 1 hour workouts and get a similar result as long as you’re consistent. 4 hours at the gym is too much time unless you take excessive rest periods and/or uses it as a social arena.

          It’s actually pretty funny to see a real power lifter next to a youtube-popular muscle builder, 1/4 the size, but can lift 4x as much.

          The strongest powerlifters are huge, and specify in only 3 movements. Take a powerlifter out of those 3 specific movements and bodybuilders doesn’t look all that bad.

          Steroids just make muscles that get in the way of utility. Rather than properly useful muscles.

          Strongmen are even bigger than bodybuilders and there’s no loss in “functional strength”/utility.

          Not a single part of you comment is accurate, are you into fitness/strength sports?

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            I may have the exact amount of time wrong from what people are saying, and I was assuming he didn’t only work on his arms, but I can concede that since we only see his arms it’s all I really should comment on.

            And no I don’t have much interest in it myself. So I probably got specific terms wrong.

            The words I should have used are people training specifically to ‘be’ strong versus people training specifically to ‘look’ strong. Whatever the proper words are for that.

            The whole focus of my post, other than saying the wrong specific words, is that people’s ideas of what it takes to get strong have been skewed by the prevalence of steroids. It’s now assumed if your muscles are less than an inch thick, you “don’t even lift, bro”. When that kind of size is pretty hard to attain outside of a gym. Like even hard labourers aren’t gonna look like that without putting in proper time and attention. Whatever the specific real proper amount of time is.

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              I used to lift heavily in high school to help in sports, I’m on the shorter side but I still to this day fill out the sleeves of a typical polo. I haven’t been inside a gym or worked out other than my mostly daily walks in over twenty years and still have relatively defined muscles. I’ve never used anything other than protein powder when I was in high school although I did hit the gym three times a day five days a week back then (my teachers let me skip class to go workout). Nobody is going to mistake me for being cut but I’m also nearing fifty and still have large muscles compared to a lot of people I run into. At this point I have to assume it was from rigorous lifting while in my youth and retaining a portion of that or genetics which I’m less inclined to believe but only emotionally because I strongly dislike my bigoted family.

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          Are we looking at the same picture? Zero Cool has the best physique of the bunch and he’s only “fit”. None of their bodies require 4 hrs of gym time a day, unless they’re trying to burn through like 4k calories using only a flat treadmill.

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            Go back and look at what people who spent hours in a gym per day looked like 50 years ago. Exercise hasn’t changed, the only thing that has changed is what people take while exercising. It’s even become common for people to admit they are taking steroids and not be ashamed of it anymore.

            Back when this movie came out, that was a 4 hours a day gym body.

            Our perspective and expectations of what is attainable steroid-free are so heavily skewed now. Like check out rock climbers, people that need to be both strong and flexible, so steroids aren’t even an option for them. They can lift 150-200 pounds repeatedly for hours, and their arms look about like this guy in the movie. Then check out people that are just cultivating “big muscles” and compare what they can actually lift with those muscles. It looks ridiculous in comparison.

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              I get what you’re going for, 100% things have shifted. Absolutely true.

              But I’m not taking steroids, and I’m not spending 4 hours a day at the gym, and I basically have the same arms as that guy. At least in this photo. Maybe he’s more jacked than he looks in the rest of the movie, I haven’t seen it in a while, and I don’t have shredded abs or anything. I’m not impressively fit. But I have arms that look kinda like that.

              I think you’ve taken the steroids thing, which again is a legit thing, and maybe swung fully in the other direction and decided any muscle at all is a modern creation? Some dudes have arms. Just, attached to their shoulders.

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              lol dude this is a lot of cope. Work out 30-60 min most days a week and make sure you’re eating a surplus including lots of protein and this is achievable in a few months

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              It is a matter of efficiency. 4 hrs a day is high-intensity full body workout. If 4 hrs a day got you looking like that, you were not using your time efficiently. I guess, we need to define what you consider “going to/using the gym”.

              I’m just a guy who’s been in some gyms, but most, normal dedicated people are in and out in about 2 hrs. They hit their target bodyparts and bounce. More than that and I’d assume you have to wait for machines, you’re lazing around, or you’re an athlete/in action movies.

              And then, even beyond efficiency, it’s about the body’s ability to sustain any decent workout for 4 whole hours. The Rock might manage all that with the supplements he’s taking and he still crams down thousands of calories to fuel himself. And none of these guys have the bulked weightlifter bodies.

              Or they just run for 4 hrs. But I wouldn’t really call that a “gym body”.

              If you have a source where these actors claim their physique is the result of 4 hrs of daily work in the gym, then I’ll take up my complaint with them. But I’m gonna hard disagree every day of the week.

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                I just mean our perspective of what strong looks like has been so shifted by steroids becoming main stream.

                Like this is a bit of an outrageous example, but pranks like this are only possible because people can’t possibly believe one of the strongest people on the planet can look this small.

                https://youtu.be/YFbdukrZZHc

                Giant muscles isn’t strong, giant muscles is just for show. And back then it wasn’t common for actors to use steroids yet. He had to work for those arms, they may look small now, but they were alot of work back then.

                Honestly, I don’t know how many hours exactly, but it was more than people would think it was nowadays.

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              I’m roughly as big as him and I don’t spend four hours a day in the gym. Nor do I take steroids.

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          The Rock is a good example of how the image of a jacked male body has changed to the extreme. In his old movies he looks skinny compared to his monstrous body he has today. Even though back then people thought he was quite buff. Though even back then people also had an unrealistic ideal of the male physique. Like people were calling Brad Pitt unhealthily skinny when he had his Fight Club body.

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        I’m sorry do you not see the biceps on that girl in the blue shirt

        nvm somebody else said it already

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    Uh, Mr. The Plague, uh, something weird’s happening on the fediverse.

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    Governments and corporations need people like you and me.

    We are Samurai. The Keyboard Cowboys.

    And all those other people who have no idea what’s going on are the cattle…

    Moooo.

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        Fairly. Cereal Killer and Phantom Freak are hella gender. Burn dreaming about Crash crossdressing and the lingere. Crash being hella chill wearing a dress for the final scene date? All of the outfits are so good. The main romantic subplot being just as much about Burn’s desire for Crash as vice versa? Razor and Blade?

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        I’ve kinda stopped asking when people claim that. It never ever makes sense to me but also if they’re having their own little fun with it, go off

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          You ever see anything set in the 90s?

          at some point something weird or gay or weirdly hay will happen and someone will shrug and say: “it’s the 90s”.

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    (sigh) WHY is my only copy of this movie on a VHS tape buried deep in the closet?

    And I don’t even have a working VCR at hand.