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    In a sane country people would be ripping the piping from their walls to use as weapons against a regime like this. Instead most people just don’t notice or don’t care. I actually don’t see a future for my country anymore…

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      ~people aren’t doing anything~

      literally millions of Americans organizing nationwide protests and resistance events, uniting with friends and co-workers to strategize, with larger and larger turnouts with each passing week…

      🤔🤔🤔

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          Sadly we have to watch this dumpster fire go on while either planning to pick up the pieces once it’s over or you make a run for the border in hopes of saving yourself

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            I’m not gonna let myself be bullied out of my home by God’s biggest losers. I’m in a blue state so I’ll be okay for now. I’m also armed so I’ll be okay if or when shit hits the fan. I dont blame people who do leave but for me that’s just not in the cards.

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              I don’t live in a blue state sadly, I can’t trust myself with a weapon because I know what would happen if I had one. So for me, I have to consider leaving everything behind just to be safe

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                And that’s perfectly okay. I envy you in a way. I’m too stubborn to give in to these fucking geeks and it could very well be my downfall in the coming years. I also have friends and family who can’t or don’t want to leave so if they’re staying then I’m staying. I also love my home city of Chicago too much to just abandon it lol.

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      I hear this all over Lemmy. So which improvised weapons have you crafted to oppose this regime? It’s like you expect the rest of us to do it. Give your nutsack a tug and lead on.

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        Well, this would be a noble start: Guerilla Shotgun

        I suppose one could start hoarding glass bottles and gasoline/styrofoam gel.

        I’ve done neither of those things, but I have read Mila 18 a bunch of times, so I guess there’s that. Oh, and I do have at least one board with a nail sticking out of it somewhere behind the shed.

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        So which improvised weapons have you crafted to oppose this regime?

        I’d say but I don’t want a visit from the alphabet boys

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        So what are you doing as an American?

        You expect the rest of the world to act for you, while you sit back and disparage people talking about a solution.

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        No. It is not weapons that will be effective, but tactics. I think the closest analogue would be the IRA, or any insurgency against the US in the middle east for more recent examples.

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      I think the “smartest” thing the administration is doing is not giving us local targets in our cities. Much as I hate the local police, they aren’t complicit by default until it happens here. Once there are clearer local targets, you’ll see far more action.

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      It’s baseball season boiiii. Also American idol 34 is starting too. And Kendrick Lamar dropped a new banger! The new iPhone came out not long ago too. Mcdonalds mcrib is back!!! I just rewatched Modern Family for the second time even though it’s 100% unrelatable to any honest living person that didn’t fuck lives over to become upper middle class!

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    We knew they wanted to go in a fascist direction, but I doubt many of us imagined they’d have the concentration camps up and running within three months. Bukele says he won’t return anyone, even if innocent, from this prison in El Salvador, and the director of the prison says that no one who goes in will ever return to their community. So how do you keep shipping prisoners into a camp without any of them coming out, and without the camp filling up? Maybe we’re further along with the Nazi program than most people realize.

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      We’re on pace with Nazi Germany. If you use that as a template you’ll expect:

      • Concentration camps in about 60 days (milestone reached)
      • October we’re due to leave the UN/NATO
      • Draft coming in 2027 if Trump remains in power
      • In 2030 we’ll annex Greenland
      • By September 2031 we will start WW3

      Now a lot can change between now and then and Trump isn’t a young guy, but that’s the blueprint to watch.

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        We’re much further ahead than them. Unlike Nazi Germany we’re already the world’s undisputed hegemon and all of the world’s most advanced economies are aligned w us.

        Even though some are starting to learn to regret it; they’re still more skeptical of China or Russia than they are of us and our military presence within their borders and their dependence on our financial system ensures that they won’t stray unless the bombs literally start flying and, by then, it’ll be too late.

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          Yeah obviously there are differences between 1933 Germany and 2025 USA, but it still takes time to do everything. Our hegemony is deteriorating, and the way I see it that’s more important for global reaction speed than internal change speed.

          No one currently gives enough of a shit about owning Greenland to want to invade it. The draft is key and I don’t think you’ll see that until after the mid-terms due to the backlash. That would put us right on the above pace.

          But this is all really speculative and I don’t have any particular insight or educational focus on Nazi Germany. I just grew up in the wake of it, my grandfather having fought in the pacific theater.

          There are certainly better prognosticators than me to listen to, but at the end of the day it’s all guesswork.

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        Did you account for how much faster everything is happening? He’s only been in office for nearly three months.

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          He was on pace for concentration camps, within a few days. He’s moving fast but it takes time to drag a nation to war. We have time to oppose him. We have time for him to choke on a hamberder. With each passing day things get worse, but at what point will we collectively go further than protest? Things have to get really bad before that reaches critical mass.

          What a fucking mess we’ve created. You know who I always wonder about? Whatever happened to the Germans who voted for Hitler? At what point did they regret it? When he turned into a madman? Or not until the Soviet and western tanks rolled into town?

          Because until Trump voters start realizing what they’ve unleashed and start trying to take it back, nothing will stop him. So what’s the German blueprint for that? I don’t know.

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            You know who I always wonder about? Whatever happened to the Germans who voted for Hitler? At what point did they regret it? When he turned into a madman? Or not until the Soviet and western tanks rolled into town?

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Thought_They_Were_Free

            The author determined that his interviewees had fond memories of the Nazi period and did not see Adolf Hitler as evil, and they perceived themselves as having a high degree of personal freedom during Nazi rule, with the exception of the teacher. Additionally, barring said teacher, the subjects still disliked Jewish people.

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        I will say, even despite me being the one constantly yelling about the incoming american fascism, I also though it’d take at least a little longer

        But here we are, with most institutions and companies just rolling over. Sure, I figured it would happen, but I at least thought it’d take more than a year. Not… 3 months

        It’s… I lack words, even. This is straight up nazi Germany, except we have the hindsight of history, and yet it’s still all for naught. Incredibly incredibly scary

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    Americans, either fix your shit, or start thinking about how to get out, before the big beautiful wall keeps you in.

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    All part of the Orange Turds plan for America. MAGAts have turned America into a horror movie.

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      Yep, Project 2025 wasn’t exaggerated at all. We all knew this would happen.

      But I’m gonna blame Biden, Harris and AIPAC for blowing up the liberal-progressive coalition and alienating working class Americans with high inflation.

      How do you lose 6 million voters from 2020 to 2024. That’s just insane.

      Half of them went to Trump, the other half stayed home.

      Madness

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        Yeah…I hate how much I hate magasites AND the DNC. I mean, I definitely hate one more than the other, but geez, I just really would love to love at least a majority of the candidates churned out by at least one of the parties.

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    at what point is this not just a reactionary coup - the president’s complete disregard of the Supreme Court’s ruling and the Constitution means the United States of America is over, no? I mean, whatever this government is, it’s no longer operating by the fundamental rules and laws that established this country, that define this government - this is a new, autocratic government operating by different rules.

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    Isn’t this EXACTLY what that orange windbag was saying other countries do to the US? It’s always projection with these assholes.

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    This will also trigger a break down in law … it’s basically capital punishment … break the law and you’re out.

    So to many people who see the writing on the wall … if you’re going to be punished severely, why not do as much as possible while you can before you’re ejected … or ride the lawbreaking for as long as you can until you get caught because you’re screwed anyway

    America is going down in flames

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        I was thinking of those poor young men and women who are already at the bottom of society and have no chance. I’m Indigenous Canadian so I know what it feels like to be at the bottom of the pile and I’ve lived with and know many young men and women who faced a life of prosecution. At one point you lose hope and give up and realize that no matter what you do, you’re going to get punished. Most people have a survival instinct that kicks in and says hang on and keep hoping for something. But I’ve also seen people lose hope and then just go out in a blaze of glory and kill and destroy as much as they can on their way out.

        This is why capital punishment of any kind doesn’t work … once you take away people’s hope, then they become reckless and give up on following any social norms or laws.

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      on April 19th there will be protests nationwide in every city.

      I plan to be at the one where I live, with as many people as I can get to come with me. attending is the bare minimum i can do, but until we collectively get up enough courage for large scale civil disobedience, simple protests are a starting point to get you connected with local allies and movements.

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        attending is the bare minimum i can do, but until we collectively get up enough courage for large scale civil disobedience, simple protests are a starting point to get you connected with local allies and movements.

        Simple protesting are not a starting point. Using protests to agitate and sell your community on more radical action is a starting point. I’m not saying you’re like that, but many people think that protesting is enough or the most they can do, or that they just need to “put pressure on their representatives” or win the midterms. Those people are, in fact, not even at the starting line. The idea of “this isn’t enough, but it’s a good start” is dangerous because it invites inaction with the assumption that action that is “enough” will happen eventually. It won’t; you need to make it happen. Many, if not most, in this nascent resistance movement don’t understand the urgency of the situation or the scale of action necessary to fix it and will have to be dragged by people like you to effective resistance.

        If you’re wondering why I keep saying you and not we, it’s because I’m armchair strategizing/agitating from the other side of the world.

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      Jsut meeting won’t stop it. Spread within your community the idea of a general strike. Given Americans’ poor showing so far it will be necessary.

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      Everywhere, continuously. https://www.fiftyfifty.one/ is a good start. Find your local org, meet the people, make connections.

      SRA might be an option if you think future direct action might be necessary.

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      Homegrown criminals. He wants to deport US citizens (explicitely rather than “accidentally”)

      Edit: And don’t fool yourself, this will happen without due process.
      “Criminal” just means the Trump administration accuses you of being a criminal, rather than it actually needing to be proven in court that you broke the law.