• MagicShel@lemmy.zip
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    5 days ago

    We’re on pace with Nazi Germany. If you use that as a template you’ll expect:

    • Concentration camps in about 60 days (milestone reached)
    • October we’re due to leave the UN/NATO
    • Draft coming in 2027 if Trump remains in power
    • In 2030 we’ll annex Greenland
    • By September 2031 we will start WW3

    Now a lot can change between now and then and Trump isn’t a young guy, but that’s the blueprint to watch.

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      We’re much further ahead than them. Unlike Nazi Germany we’re already the world’s undisputed hegemon and all of the world’s most advanced economies are aligned w us.

      Even though some are starting to learn to regret it; they’re still more skeptical of China or Russia than they are of us and our military presence within their borders and their dependence on our financial system ensures that they won’t stray unless the bombs literally start flying and, by then, it’ll be too late.

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        Yeah obviously there are differences between 1933 Germany and 2025 USA, but it still takes time to do everything. Our hegemony is deteriorating, and the way I see it that’s more important for global reaction speed than internal change speed.

        No one currently gives enough of a shit about owning Greenland to want to invade it. The draft is key and I don’t think you’ll see that until after the mid-terms due to the backlash. That would put us right on the above pace.

        But this is all really speculative and I don’t have any particular insight or educational focus on Nazi Germany. I just grew up in the wake of it, my grandfather having fought in the pacific theater.

        There are certainly better prognosticators than me to listen to, but at the end of the day it’s all guesswork.

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      Did you account for how much faster everything is happening? He’s only been in office for nearly three months.

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        He was on pace for concentration camps, within a few days. He’s moving fast but it takes time to drag a nation to war. We have time to oppose him. We have time for him to choke on a hamberder. With each passing day things get worse, but at what point will we collectively go further than protest? Things have to get really bad before that reaches critical mass.

        What a fucking mess we’ve created. You know who I always wonder about? Whatever happened to the Germans who voted for Hitler? At what point did they regret it? When he turned into a madman? Or not until the Soviet and western tanks rolled into town?

        Because until Trump voters start realizing what they’ve unleashed and start trying to take it back, nothing will stop him. So what’s the German blueprint for that? I don’t know.

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          You know who I always wonder about? Whatever happened to the Germans who voted for Hitler? At what point did they regret it? When he turned into a madman? Or not until the Soviet and western tanks rolled into town?

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Thought_They_Were_Free

          The author determined that his interviewees had fond memories of the Nazi period and did not see Adolf Hitler as evil, and they perceived themselves as having a high degree of personal freedom during Nazi rule, with the exception of the teacher. Additionally, barring said teacher, the subjects still disliked Jewish people.