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      Honestly I think it would be kind of entertaining to have a Un-iverses Beyond set if they pick a good property for it. Magic is dead, so this metaverse slop might as well be as entertaining as it can be, right?

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        Get weird with it. Do a Nestle UB set, straight to standard and premodern, 120 cards, 90 of them “food” type. 3 card boosters, only rares, mythics, and ultra-mythics. Serialized versions of all cereals.

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      They should have made UB silver bordered (or some other color like purple). They’d actually sell an Un-set for once while keeping it out of their main game. It would also let them not have to worry about power levels and balance issues. They could make something like the infinity stones from Marvel just be better moxes, for example.

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    I dont play or know anything about Magic but if I did it an absolutely sure this would piss me off.

    Collectible card gsme people should get into card based board games. I guarantee Talisman or Cosmic Encounter would scratch the same itch but also it teaches you how to count cards. I just want Cosmic Encounter to become popular cause its the game of games

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    Every capitalist card game will eventually go this route if they don’t go under first. The incentives are just too strong, the best you can hope for is that it holds out for a long enough time to have fun.

    I wonder if it would be possible to do a CCG and have it be successful while being print-your-own. Maybe have it be a collaborative project where people submit art and cards to be considered for the next set, which releases every one or two months. The central group (and contributors) could even still make money by selling the cards - just instead of banking on artificial scarcity for profit they’d be running a print shop.

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      What’s a weird addendum to this is that the Professor in the video I linked down-thread was saying that they can’t even keep up with print demand for their own core products! They’re diluting their brand and flooding the market even when their base game would keep them profitable indefinitely.

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      I wonder if it would be possible to do a CCG and have it be successful while being print-your-own. Maybe have it be a collaborative project where people submit art and cards to be considered for the next set, which releases every one or two months. The central group (and contributors) could even still make money by selling the cards - just instead of banking on artificial scarcity for profit they’d be running a print shop.

      I think fans of Netrunner did this after the company stopped making sets

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      Every capitalist card game will eventually go this route if they don’t go under first.

      Yeah, but so far to my knowledge of the big 3 (pokemon tcg, yugioh, and mtg), magic is the only ones going this hard into it.

      Like yeah Yugioh would have the occasional cross promotion card, but it’s typically just a normal vanilla monster (aka, completely useless), and it’s also maybe just 1-3 cards at best that come with a monthly magazine sub. And even then all their stuff is largely references and homages, like there’s an archetype in YGO that’s a reference to both Wizard of Oz and OT Star Wars (Kozmo).

      Pokemon tcg, also as far as my knowledge goes hasn’t done anything in terms of crossovers either.

      If we get into long running smaller card games, there’s Redemption, which due to the theming of the whole card game (bible, yes, it’s a real tcg depicting stuff from the bible) makes it very naturally anti-crossover.

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    Surprised Disney would let them use the Marvel Super Heroes, didn’t they recently release their own TCG, which would presumably feature all of the properties they own.

    I guess MtG is doing much worse than they would like to admit, I don’t know anyone who still plays it anymore, that includes people who have been playing since the 90s. All this stuff does is cheapen it and might give a short term boost to sales but won’t help them out long term. Why play a card game that no longer has a disctinct vibe but is now just “Funko Pops: The Card Game”

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      didn’t they recently release their own TCG

      Two of them, actually. One is Lorcana, featuring Disney princesses and characters like Mickey Mouse. The other is a digital TCG, Marvel Snap, which is where all their superheroes are.

      Because they don’t want competition with Marvel Snap, Disney made Wizards of the Coast make non-Marvel versions of the Spiderman cards for digital Magic. Most of us find this amusing because paper Spiderman sales appear to be sub-par, so WotC shot themselves in the foot for nothing.

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    I haven’t kept up with Magic for a couple of years now, is it really just a bunch of crossovers now? Does this really sell that much? I think crossover sets are cool from time to time, but every time I hear about Magic nowadays is something negative because of the crossover sets.

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      Final fantasy did gangbusters. Spiderman is looking like itll flop, but its also just a poorly designed set to play. I only started a few months ago so idk how baldurs gate or lotr did

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        I didn’t even know there was Baldur’s Gate set lmao. I haven’t really bought cards in years and haven’t played in months. WOTC also left my country, so it’s probably really expensive to play Magic now.

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        Baldur’s gate reception was pretty lukewarm when it came out as bg3 was still in early access, most of the cards got popular when Bg3 hit full release

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        Until Final Fantasy was released, LotR was the highest selling set of all time. The problem with Universes Beyond is no one likes it, until it’s an IP they do like, then they buy lots of it. And because they’ve been licensing every IP under the sun they can get their hands on, inevitably they rope people in.

        Also I’m sorry you started playing Magic in the FIRE and UB era. The game has been an absolute shit show since around 2019.

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    If anyone is interested in a channel where an angry and bitter MTG enthusiast complains endlessly and in great detail about WOTC and things like this screenshot, check out https://www.youtube.com/@RedBobcatGames/videos

    I don’t really agree with him on everything but I think he’s interesting and knowledgeable and is able to be very severely critical despite evidently also being treat-brained.