• schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
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    19 days ago

    If any water counts, then almost everywhere that people live at all has “water access”. Lakes, however big, aren’t the ocean.

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      19 days ago

      Landlocked usually refers to navigation not access to water. For that purpose the Great Lakes count.

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        19 days ago

        You can take a boat from Nebraska to the ocean via river so it’s not land locked either.

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        19 days ago

        Then so do the North Saskatchewan, South Saskatchewan, and Saskatchewan rivers. There’s cities on those rivers today because back in the day it was easy access between them.

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          You’ll find no argument from me. If you can get from there to the ocean with a sufficiently large vessel, I’d say it’s not landlocked.

          The state/province borders are pretty arbitrary themselves, there’s a lot of nuance lost in this simplified infographic.

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            19 days ago

            Going by that then the states on the great lakes aren’t landlocked either since you can get to the ocean from them

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              Yeah, a good deal of early US/Canadian history revolved around who had access to which waterways that could get to the ocean, who built canals from where to where, etc.

              Like, lakes and rivers are still generally fresh water, not salt water… but they have always been used as basically logistics highways, by basically all peoples, everywhere, forever, before the advent of planes trains and automobiles… and a pretty huge amount of freight still does get moved around on thr Great Lakes… though of course recent tariffs are probably greatly complicating and lessening that.

              https://greatlakes-seaway.com/en/navigating-the-seaway/seaway-map/

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                15 days ago

                This a cool pic of the profile of the Great Lakes System of locks and the elevation changes. It’s an amazing set of engineering over the last couple hundred years that’s still being upgraded and expanded.

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      19 days ago

      It’s crazy how much money we spend on zero-point energy generation just to teleport container ships from the Great Lakes to the Atlantic.

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        19 days ago

        Oh so you’d prefer we just send the ships over Niagara Falls instead? Silly NZPTIMBY folks (No Zero-Point Teleportation In My Back Yard) 😛