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What kind of narcissistic fuck refers to himself as “high value man”
It’s taking the piss out of Andrew Tate and the gullible guys that he’s convinced are superior to women.
Gestures wildly at the men, many in positions of power, around the world, who very obviously would do that.
From all the trending news articles, ten year old boys who got access to tik tok
it’s definitely not just the ten year olds that think this shit.
The kind made of straw
Seriously – my wife takes 0% of my bullshit, and that’s such a great quality. Just sayin’.
I love seeing these comics. You can always count on like 20 white males showing up asking how this is funny, that it’s a strawman, that pizzacake is terrible, blah blah blah.
The simple thing is, they are comics that give a flavor of the times. Males ARE acting this way. Is it a caricature of a scenario, sure, but that’s what a fucking comic is. Does it have to be “funny” in order to be a comic? No, there are political comics everywhere. Why does pizzacake only get this sort of ire? Is it because she’s calling out white males on the absurdity of their actions, and they don’t like it?
My advice? Chill TF out bros. It’s a comic. If you don’t like it, maybe you should talk to your buddies when they start acting like Andrew Taint’s mouthpiece. Toxic masculinity is a real issue. Sorry that it takes a fucking pizzacake comic to discuss it…
The issue with pizzacake is that her behavior demonstrates that she doesn’t oppose this kind of behavior because it’s wrong, she opposes it because it’s directed at her.
both can be true?
Can be but are not.
The description that resonates with me is that you agree with what she says but cringe at how she says it. I think it really comes down to the fact that the comics are never deeper than surface level. I’d enjoy them if my takeaway was ever more than “well, yeah…”
For some people, surface level is enough.
Tbh the planet is full of obnoxious, insufferable, outright cunty artists of all stripes…but it’s this one that’s a personal affront.
Gee. Wonder why.
“alpha” males chill tf out challenge:
IMPOSSIBLE!!!1
Thanks for that but also crazy that you have to explain it. Guess it’s needed.
As a white male, I’m not going to disagree with you on any of this.
Related to the content: personally I like opinionated, loud mouthed women. I don’t classify myself as a “high value” male or anything. I mean, who the fuck is that arrogant? I’m not poor, but I’m certainly not rich. I’m much closer to being poor than I am to being rich… But that doesn’t say much.
In any case, the content is funny. It’s an exaggeration of the kind of reaction that people tend to have to dickwads sharing their unsolicited opinions with strangers who don’t care what you think.
I love that it is shining a big fat spotlight on the shitty behaviors that self proclaimed “high value men” think is ok. It’s not ok. Stop it. Get some help.
It’s shameful to share a gender with these degenerates. I am ashamed of my gender because people like the one depicted in the comic, exist. And they’re not a trivial amount either. There’s a good number of them, and it’s fucking embarrassing.
To anyone butthurt about the contents of the comic: first, relax, it’s a joke. Second, how about you treat everyone like they’re a fucking human being? Instead of putting people into little boxes like “high value” or “male” or “female” or whatever, how about you throw all that bullshit out and just see humans. Regardless of race, gender, preferences, religion, anatomical features, disabilities… They’re all human beings deserving of some measure of respect. And don’t give me any shit about “respect is earned”… Fuck you. You need to have a basic level of respect before you can prove yourself as someone deserving of respect; otherwise any action you take will be seen as the feeble flailings of someone nobody cares about to earn some kind of clout.
Everyone should be given a base level of respect until they prove that the respect granted to them for being a human in our society, isn’t deserved.
For everyone else who may still be reading and didn’t get butthurt by a comic: stay frosty.
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Oh, I agree. I’m right there with you.
I was specifically addressing butthurt white males.
I, personally, couldn’t give a shit what race/gender anyone is, they’re a living human deserving of respect, the kind that isn’t demonstrated by the asshole in the subject comic.
The only reason I’m calling out white males, specifically those that feel butthurt by the comic and have no sense of humor, is because the previous poster specifically cited that group. I’m a member of the white/male group, so I wanted to speak bluntly “man to man” style to any future visitors. Oh my, there are so many issues with referring to it that way; I’m just going to leave it and hope it comes across correctly.
In any case, anyone, regardless of their race, or gender or anything else you can classify people using, has different behaviors or thinks differently (better or worse) about others based on gender/race/whatever, then they’re an asshole.
I will judge others based on the content of their character. That doesn’t make me better than anyone else, I’m only stating my intent. If the content of your character is trash, then I will judge you for the trash you are. If you’re trying to do right, despite falling/failing sometimes, then thats worthy of more consideration than the trash humans mentioned earlier.
I couldn’t possibly give any fewer fucks what color your skin is, or what you have in your pants. Be whatever you want to be, just don’t be an asshole.
Whats the joke here?
There’s no joke. People seem to enjoy feeling either superior or outraged or both and the name of the game is user engagement. That’s how you end up with this type of thing.
The green lady thinks “who’d pay for her nudes?” means “I won’t date you”
Huh? I dont care who made the comic im just wondering what the actual punchline is.
The punchline is entirely self-referential. Or rather, there isn’t a punchline. This is a really basic exchange as could be found in the real comment sections of basically any woman posting photos of herself online.
Except that the person who draws this comic uses it primarily to advertise her OnlyFans, so somehow she’s connected annoyance with the constant promotion of her terrible joke-free comics with the same thing that that means all criticism of her is incel fury and not, yknow, people wanting comics to be promoted for how good they are rather than how entrenched her subscribers are.
I see now what everyone’s talking about, without really broaching the subject (without sounding totally incel). This sums is up nicely, although even including that she does OF will make some people call you the incel. At any rate, thank you
Some men think women care about “value” of people when dating but instead women are either not looking for a relationship or not as objectifying as these men
The punchline is that women now use this dumb “value” idea to filter out who to even associate with in the first place, by just avoiding any guy who mentions this shit
I guess i just don’t like these type of comics. It’s akin to someone posting “Haterz r my motivatorz!” on facebook circa 2011
This is better imo, part of the punchline here is that she’s already married and is just fucking annoyed by this guy hitting on her in the most disrespectful way possible
The fuck are you on about?
Probably about PCC author having an onlyfans
This dog shit comic being spammed on *eddit was a good reason to leave that shithole
Yeah, the virtue signaling is at an insane level, but the author never seems to take their own advice or take it well when anyone points out their blind spots.
she’s had some real shitty opinions but she’s generally in the right ballpark.
I generally agree with her opinions, but there’s more to thinking a comic is good than pointing at it and going “wow i think that too.” They always just seem like super generic “relatable” jokes, and it’s crazy that they always get 50 billion upvotes.
low hanging fruit is low hanging fruit for a reason. it’s accessible.
The only comic of hers that I’ve found morally objectionable was years ago now, and framed around complaining about her kids.
It had thousands of downvotes (on reddit) and all the comments were calling her out for being entierly responsible for her situation as a parent, and telling her to suck it up and step up because bitching out her kids like that was damaging them, unproductive and absolutely not funny.
Out of the thousands of comic panels of hers that I’ve seen, that’s really not a bad track record at all.
she also downplayed male rape a while back. and doubled down on it.
Yeah, on this topic I feel like she’s in the ballpark. My girlfriend and I game in the same spaces but we don’t always announce that we are together IRL for privacy sake. And we are both very independent people.
The amount of weird dudes she’s ran into that have used “high value man” or “high value woman” is absolutely more than one. They’re pretty common to bump into in online spaces.
The last time she ran into a problem with a dude like this—she read me the chat as it was going down. The guy was clearly into her but couldn’t handle that she was taken and had no interest. So, this random dude proceeded to call me a cuck (hahaha), asked if I “knew what she was up to” (gaming? lol), and that no high value man would want her! He did this in a public gaming space too and about 50 people thankfully dog piled and ratioed him into oblivion.
Oh well! I guess she’s stuck with “her low value cuck man” who makes her coffee in bed every morning and with whom she raised a cute and healthy family with. She’s allowed to do whatever she wants and her male doesn’t even try to control her. How horrible! She’ll never recover!
These dudes are dangerous in numbers. Which is why they deserve and need to be mocked mercilessly until they fuck off or get therapy.
Which is why they deserve and need to be mocked mercilessly until they fuck off or get therapy.
I’m doing my part. 🫡
Actually, I missed this thread.
You’re welcome to make your own comic if you think you can do better.
now now. that’s just a stupid stance to take. you don’t have to make media to be critical of it.
or do you have to make a podcast to say joe rogan’s slop is toxic, diseased, and damaging to society?
You’re right of course! But also there’s a big difference between real criticism and just saying something is “dogshit”. In fact you criticized Joe Rogan’s stuff properly, by drawing attention to the negative effects it has on people. We could go even further and pick out specific cases. (Though there’s no need to in this case, I agree with you.)
On the other hand, shitting on something with no reasoning just makes you a hater. I work with several comic artists professionally, and a common thing they ALL see is a nontrivial percentage of commenters who simply disparage everything. This is not because the content is inherently bad, but because all these trolls can do is destroy, not create.
Them saying Joe Rogan’s podcast is “toxic, diseased, and damaging to society” is not better critique than the other poster calling this comic dog shit. Both are just statements that provide no argument or reasoning behind the statements. Sure they could back it up with examples why it is so, but so could the other commenter, which would make either of those comments valid criticism, but without they are equally good (or bad) criticism.
I think it’s fine because we were operating on an implicit set of shared knowledge. Not every communication needs to be a research paper.
I have no understanding (implicit or explicit) of why the original commenter hated this comic, and clearly that’s the case for the vast majority of the voters here.
Providing 2-3 lines of explanatory context is hardly a research paper, but enough to illustrate reason behind a simple statement.
AFAIK, the author of this comic is somewhat of an asshat that exercises varying degree of censorship on a comic strip subreddit, based on their personal beliefs.
like i replied to the original comment that person is complaining about, she’s had some really dumb takes but is usually in the right ballpark. those dumb takes were also cases where she doubled down and yeah, that subreddit is basically a safespace for their superusers/content creators.
“This is a dog shit comic” is not a critique, though, is the thing. It’s just jerking off in public.
Fun fact: no one is forcing you to read comics you dislike! If you don’t like a post, you are allowed to scroll past it.
we don’t want you here
I’d suggest 4chan as a more suitable alternative buuuuut…
I guess you should just leave instead of posting shit comments.
Lol. Dog shit comments like this being posted on reddit was a good reason to leave that shithole.
I’m not a fan of her comics, I just don’t find them very funny. But the level of unconstructive hate she gets is absurd. Just move on if you don’t like the comics. If you really dislike them, just block the user or community. It’s not hard. Grow up.
The great thing about lemmy is that if you don’t like a post, there is another one under it.
I don’t think this is the right place for you then either. Maybe try X or “Truth” Social?
Excuse you. Liking pizzacake is not a prerequisite to be a sane normal person.
IKR, that’s like the ultimate reddit opinion to have. 😂
So, if someone disagrees with your opinion of PizzaShit, they’re somehow a conservative?
Jesus fucking Christ. This is truly r/comics Al over again.
Pot: Meet kettle.
Jfc. You can’t make this up
I don’t see what’s dogshit about it. Maybe you just don’t like it?
Fits the current comic btw.
Are these Questionable Content characters?
Questionable Content is a worlds better artist, this “artist” routinely recycles old art into new slop targeted at r/all
I really hate their comics. Never anything original.
I really hate scrolling through comments to find ones like this. Never adds to the conversation.
Only fawning praise adds to the conversation
How does someone going against the popular opinion not add to the conversation??
You really didn’t see what I was doing there, huh?
You’re right, they did add something to the conversation. And what they added was a low effort post that did nothing other than waste electricity.
Why is it that everytime I see this artist nowadays it’s just a preachy kill-a-strawman comic? I remember them being funny back in the day, what happened? Did they change, did I? Am I mistaking a shite copycat for an artist I remember fondly? Is this what senility feels like? How was your day?
I remember them being funny back in the day, what happened?
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hidden-motives/201203/unreliable-memory
A strawman? What the fuck are you talking about?
He apparently identified with the arrogant man in the comic.
Is it really a strawman when we see actual headlines about public figures acting this way?
According to these commenters and bingo cards anyone who criticized this artist is an incel. To me she just makes mid borderline lame/cringe comics. Was happy not seeing her stuff after leaving Reddit lo and behold shes back with comics denoting imaginary scenarios without any punchlines. Go ahead and check a bingo square and call me an incel her work sucks.
Oh, so the artist has a reputation for this sort of stuff?
Neg me daddy.
Today in things that never happened:
Or maybe it would happen in the US. I wouldn’t be surprised anymore.
Wait until you learn that cats don’t really like lasagna.
This happens literally every day. lmao
Really? So people randomly approach you on the street and proclaim they’ll never date you?
Either you never seen the comment section of any post ever, or you the dude who makes these kind of comments.
Yes, because comment sections on Lemmy/Reddit/Social Media are a good metric for what happens AFK. We saw that when Lemmy/Reddit perfectly predicted the crushing loss of Donald Trump.
Oh wait…
I’d suggest going out more and hanging out with real people.
please keep reddit trash off of lemmy
Listen to your own advice and leave then
Getting a great blocklist from the comments, i’ll tell ya that
I feel like this is one of those conversations you make up in your head and it’s kinda cringe to write it down.
From my experience men often underestimate how often women face weirdos. While the whole conversation might happen only in authors head the initial comment of the guy is quite a regular thing. It is a form of bullying. The rest of the conversation might happen in the authors head only, but it’s sad that women have to face such behavior in the first place IMO. If you don’t think such conversation happens at all, you might get enlightened by the everyday sexism project, the related (audio)book, or just ask a friendly woman around you if they ever faced it. https://everydaysexism.com/
Just look at this thread. People are out in force acting superior to her and putting her down for having an only fans. Theyre providing unsolicited feedback, acting “high valued” without even realize theyre doing it. This comic is showing how she sees the unsolicited feedback from these people on the internet, and calls it out as it is, inconsequential to her life. And what do those very same people do? Get even more upset.
Frankly, i knew nothing about this lady before this thread happened. It’s been a wild ride for me to follow
Actually it is a regular thing among the asshole “manosphere” crowd (i.e. the pathetic fucking losersphere).
I can see this as a twitter exchange for sure but irl it seems very shower thoughtesque. It could be that a very online person framed it as an irl thing and that what’s jarring.
Then again I am not a woman and cannot speak to that experience.
You’ve had this conversation?
No, but I thought about having it, so basically the same thing, eh?
There is a whole generation of men being indoctrinated right now that believe women shouldn’t have any rights. Most feminist women on Instagram that I have seen have gotten a multitude of rape and murder threats.
It is nice for you if you never noticed the rampant sexism and general hatefulness that people on the internet show against any minorities they find but I’ve seen several instances of similar exchanges as shown in this comic just in the last two weeks.
Sure, misogyny exists. I’m talking about somebody referring to themselves as “high value” and calling the person they’re talking to a “loud-mouthed, opinionated wench”. It’s just really heavy-handed dialogue.
Those people unironically say stuff like “I wouldn’t even rape you” and call women that don’t look like they are about to die of anorexia fat. They exist in spades, Lemmy just isn’t the right kind of social media for those people to come out with such stuff (except for maybe this post).
I read all the comments and I still don’t understand what makes this comic interesting
I had hoped to escape seeing low-effort Pizzacake comics on the front page when I left reddit for good.
I don’t even understand what the joke is or if there even is one
There’s no joke, are you familiar with clapter?
This is false. The joke is that she is being sarcastic and derisive to an arrogant man for his foolish assumptions. Do you only see punchlines as highly literal observational ends to highly structured jokes? Because there’s a lot of jokes that aren’t structured this way or built on punchlines, set ups, observations, or the like.
I guess melodramatic sarcasm isn’t for everyone. I got a nice little chuckle out of it.
It’s four panel joke. 1. An arrogant man says he would never be with woman he’s apparently never met and knows nothing about 2. The woman, rather than being upset, leans into his arrogant rejection by pretending she is devastated at the rejection 3-4 she continues to sarcastically be upset about the rejection to mock and derid this arrogant man.
That’s it man. Pretty simple joke.
That’s really stupid lol
But the question is, does that mean that the amount of time you spend focusing on it, asking about it, demanding strangers explain it to you, an even stupider use of time and effort?
Since it’s top post I thought I was missing something. Now I’m confused why it’s top post
It’s a political statement. Guys are talking this way. Sure it’s a caricature, but that doesn’t make the statement less meaningful. Toxic masculinity is just that…it’s toxic AF, and while I may not think she has the funniest comic ever, it’s a good way to showcase the absurdity of our current times.
This is just reddit garbage, nothing funny here at all
Yup. This checks all of the “that is definitely how people talk”-boxes. It’s like an invented dialogue meets a fantasy answer.
Can we not have AIop being upvoted to the top? Thanks.
