• spacequetzal@lemm.eeEnglish
    36·
    3 days ago

    “Trust me, guys. Boromir totes told me that he would have followed me and recognized me as King. I swear!”

  • Phoenixz@lemmy.caEnglish
    1216·
    3 days ago

    I so fucking hated that scene

    So there are the new and improved orcs, they’re invincible! They’re like 3 meters tall and 200 kilograms of pure muscle awesome, they are invincible!

    Cue the guy who kills like 10 of these orcs as if he’s chipping vegetables, then he gets an arrow in the chest… And mind you, this is not an arrow that was cleared by the OIC for use at the Olympics, this is a small tree that blasts through his ribs. Oh noes! And he choos down like 4 more orcs and gets a second arrow in the chest… And proceeds to choose down a few more orcs and at this point there must be a pile of dead invincible orcs around him but he continues and get yet another arrow in the chest! Oh noes! Anyway, so he chops down another orc and then finally dies.

    I may have gotten a few details wrong , it’s been a while since I saw the scene but boy oh boy did it piss me off. This fucking invincible orcs army was worth less than a promise from Elmo Musk, it was a load of crap

    That same army then attacks this fortified city (was it helms deep, I believe?) and the dwarf and elf swing on to this narrow bridge and just start chopping more veggies. At some point the dwarf is boasting about having killed dozens and the elf just dead pan responds he’s somewheres in the hundreds or so? Anyways, it just completely took away the urgency and worry, it was just this dumb comedy night now with no real stakes.

    Then again at the end, everything is about to fall, everything seems lost, but have no fear, the Deux ex machina is here! In the shape of a literal dead and cannot die spirit army that just waltzes over the baddies and kills them in seconds, tadaaaahhh!

    These scenes ruined lord of the rings for me forever, I can’t watch it again coz it’s nine hours and I’ll just get pissed for having wasted 9more hours of my life.

    • VubDapple@lemmy.worldEnglish
      25·
      3 days ago

      I dont remember about the rivalry between Legolas and Gimli, but the army of the dead is straight from the books. There ate several points in the narrative where Tolkien seems to hint that divine intervention is at work, most notably the role of gollum biting off frodo’s finger and then falling into the volcano. Its not just a convenient plot point; its Tolkien’s worldview that God ( or Iru) directs all that happens.

      • lemming@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        10·
        2 days ago

        I don’t remeber the movies, but didn’t the dead finish the battle around Minas Tirith? In books, they defeated the fleet of bad guys near the mouth of Anduin, freeing significant army, which then takes the ships anf goes to Minas Tirith. The rest of the battle there is not unusually supernatural, if I remember correctly. I remeber not likig this part of the film. I understand it, but I think this part in particular felt very abrupt.

      • Ech@lemm.eeEnglish
        7·
        2 days ago

        Fwiw, deus ex machina (God in the machine) is fairly appropriate for exactly that.

    • _stranger_@lemmy.worldEnglish
      12·
      2 days ago

      I don’t know why you’re getting down votes this is the most hilarious shit I’ve read all week.

      • Phoenixz@lemmy.caEnglish
        11·
        1 day ago

        Yeah but am I not right?

        It was so “oh they’re invincible” and then continuously get their asses beat, even by a guy with 4 telephone poles sticking out his body

        • papalonian@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          1 day ago

          My friend, there are two different breeds of orcs in the series.

          The “super invincible” orcs you’re talking about are the Uruk-hai, bred by Saurumon in Isengard. The veggies that Boromir and co chop up are just normal, run of the mill Mordor orcs.

        • Akasazh@feddit.nlEnglish
          1·
          17 hours ago

          Not really, however both the death of Boromir and the siege of helms deep were relatively verbatim (as your misgivings are concerned, there are differences).

          The Ghost army only kills the corsairs in the books, so your problem with the green wall of death killing the entire Mordor army is on point.

          It’s a matter of taste and interpretation, however.