I know that fascist morons are taking over America but won’t somebody PLEASE think of the Teslas!
friendly reminder that unless you build your drone from scratch or flash some fancy firmware it has an ID that gets broadcast and can be traced back to you. be safe
Bet you get drone control laws before you gun control laws in the US.
Just tape a gun to a drone for immunity.
They are currently trying. The are trying to ban DJI drones as the first step.
Lmao there are already drone control laws
I must have missed the new laws that have a mandatory 3 day waiting period to buy a new drone, drones can only be purchased from a licensed dealer, dealers have to check against a national registry that a buyer is not prohibited from buying one, felons can’t buy drones, and that straw purchasing a drone is a federal offense. Must have missed all that.
I mean there are literally areas where commercial drones can’t fly, as in the software won’t allow it. The tracking and registration system is certainly a bit more robust than guns. While all the rules aren’t the same, you would expect it because, unlike guns, there are a lot of uses for drones besides killing things.
It’s going to be hard to ban electric motors, wifi chips and accelerometers.
Sure, the average user who needs to buy a DJI drone may be affected, but drones are made from parts that are ubiquitous.
How would it be traced to you? You can buy drones second hand for cash.
DJI drones, for example, broadcast an ID at a loud enough wattage that it can literally be triangulated and traced back to the controlling radio Tx without any difficulty.
It got a lot ruzzian wannabe drone pilots killed early on in their invasion of Ukraine, before they learned to change the firmware on them first.
Edit: It’s trivial to build an FPV drone from parts nowadays, there is no way anyone should be using DJI drones for tasks such as the OP.
DJI stuff is more expensive, less durable, and less user serviceable.
Ahh so you mean finding your position live. Rather than tracking who you are after the fact. If you did such a thing and left before anyone with equipment arrived then you don’t really have to worry.
That said other options have already been mentioned.
Sneak preview of the upcoming American insurgency?
I will eat my hat if enough Americans can get up off their richest-nation-on-earth-sized asses and actually fight the system in any meaningful capacity. These Tesla vandalisms are cathartic but not at all going to have impact on anything other than Tesla and Tesla owners.
I am betting the current ruling class is just fine if the people are organizing to vandalize a car brand instead of actually marching on Washington or organizing an actual strike that could do harm to businesses.
We are fat cattle in a gilded cage in this country. If you opened the gates we wouldn’t know where to go or what to do. We would likely just construct a new fence.
i mean, i don’t disagree with anything you’ve said except the rhetoric that it is an unchangeable constant.
sure, this is all true. beating the idea that it’s an inescapable reality into american’s heads online sure isn’t going to help change it tho. these people are still people, just like you.
Go shopping for some frozen fish, test drive a Tesla, ‘forget’ your grocery bag after. Make sure it’s right before dealership closing time for maximum effect.
The only downside of this plan is you have to drive a Tesla. Sacrifices have to be made.
Is there anything illegal with shitting yourself in a test drive?
Illegal? Probably not, but you’d be on the hook for cleaning costs
Even though this is most likely fake, it’s still worth a reminder, that learning how to fly drones is a hobby that could have some extra utility if the situation develops further in a way, where things may be needed that would be illegal to mention on reddit.
And even if that doesn’t happen - still a very cool hobby.
It can be fake but fake turns to reality fast on the internet, remember tide pods?
It’s a bit challenging if you don’t have good reaction timing.
Or if you didn’t know you could mix your trims and not make the throttle cut or spike every turn
Wouldn’t RC planes be easier to DIY? I wonder if it would carry more weight relative to its cost too. Bring back dive bombing?
I do not know what you are talking about. I certainly never heard of DIY cheap foam board planes you could pop a fpv camera on and fly. Certainly never would mention the word flite and test in the same sentence because I’d worry about foam board or youtube videos or a particular group getting shut down.
Learning to build and fly drones has been on my to do list for several reasons. Number one they are freaking cool. Number two, if we need to defend ourselves/assassinate dictators/fight against the government, normal guns are kind of obsolete at this point.
The new edition of the anarchists cookbook needs to include instructions on how to 3D print drones and program them to take out targets with AI.
with AI
Oh for fuck’s sake…
Lol, ML image recognition is also AI. Don’t think they want drones that talk shit.
ML target recognition is fine and good if you’re a fascist in charge of an ethnostate who doesn’t give a fuck about minimising the number of civilian casualties, but I’d’ve hoped anarchists would actually care enough to have their weapons controlled by actual people.
Awesome. I support people fighting as hard as they can to defend their country.
acid is gonna do dogshit on cars, if it doesn’t splash away in half a second the paint will protect the car
unless
looks at cybertrucks
Paint stripper rips through car paint like a hot knife through butter
Fucking water kills those trucks. A goddamn car wash voids the warranty
While this is funny as hell (and likely fake, because everything on the Internet is fake, and probably gay), it’s a good reminder of just how incredibly fucking not-what-you’d-expect of the shit hits the fan civil war wise. Farmers with drones and some fertilizers can really fuck some shit up
The IRA used farm equipment, I think a manure spreader, to spray tens of thousands of gallons of fuel at a military installation.
Just one example of that type of thinking.
Wow, just looked it up, but it didn’t quite hit me until I saw one of those things work.
More info: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Improvised_tactical_vehicles_of_the_Provisional_IRA
Tbh spreading shit in an urban area is certainly one form of protest
is this slaughterbots
i bet this is slaughterbots
clicks
wasnt disappointed
Every time I see this I think just how fucked we are if this is developed. Then I saw the hybrid drone warfare in Ukraine and I know we are pretty fucking close.
Cameras are not a security feature. It is a surveillance feature.
There is no ethical consumption under Capitalism. I am a Transwoman with a paid off model 3 please dont fuck with my only mode of transportation, im already about to snap as it is… do something that will actually help instead of trying to force folks to spend more money they dont have, to pass consumption purity tests.
You say do something that will actually help; like what?
Seems like this shit has got you frustrated as a Tesla owner. That’s the point. You have the car, you know what people think of Tesla and you are their customer.
What if you actually helped by calling up your Tesla dealership and telling them how frustrated you are that their Nazi CEOs actions are causing shit to be dropped on your car.
Maybe get one of those “i got this before Elon was a nazi” stickers or something? Dumping it onto the used market for cheap would be ideal but I get it. I’m in the market for a new (used) car right now and taking on a monthly payment again isn’t something I’m looking forward to and could easily be considered a hardship.
Yeah cause drones are gonna read a bumper sticker before dropping shit on a car.
Just trying to help, enjoy getting shit dropped on your Swasticar I guess, it’s nothing to me.
You do realize Henry Ford supported the original Nazis right… My bad for not buying a new goddamn car cause I’m saving up for bottom surgery. I guess this is what i should have expected to happen when liberals try Antifascist action lmao.
I guess this is what i should have expected to happen when liberals try Antifascist action lmao.
As opposed to your selfless sacrificial “action” of… keeping your car and driving it around? Musk would see you exterminated, get some solidarity, dump your Swasticar and buy a fucking Camry or something.
Nah I’ll be driving my car into the ground, im not going to stimulate the American economy by buying a new car. What are you actively doing to stop fascist in America besides geting angry at a transwoman on Lemmy? You liberals are insufferable. You really need to get it through yout head that there is no ethical consumption under Capitalism. And going back to burning fossil fuels to make liberals happy is NOT going to happen. Bahahaha
Cars are expensive and attacking people who worked hard to get what they once thought was the option in the market is counterproductive.
I’m all for this on the dealerships but a lot of people can’t afford to just sell their vehicle, some can’t afford normal maintenance expenses, on a vehicle that is likely heavily financed.
I mean, all out for cybertrucks and the other arseholes that are now aware of who Musk really is and what a fraud Tesla as a brand is but indiscriminately attacking ALL Teslas could be hurting vulnerable people that aren’t in the financial situation to dispose of their car.
To quote freely from the kangaroo:“why is the left so much worse than the right? - The left burns cars, the right burns foreigners. I own a car, but I don’t own a foreigner“
Boo hoo. Supporting a Nazi should be financial suicide. Unless the car is a 2015 or before, the emerald mine owners son has been a piece of shit.
This is a boring take. Everyone to the center left has tried extensively to talk through why what’s happening is bad, wrong, awful, stupid, in all the best faith ways there is to literally deaf ears. Every word is intentionally misunderstood and weaponized for further propaganda. Speech has been watered down by a torrent of others saying nothing and nonsense.
Tesla has been steadily declining with every action Elon takes. Trade-ins exist, they’ve been viable for years. If they’ve had them for awhile, they bought them when they were considered cutting edge. Who is buying bleeding edge tech while being financially unable to trade it in for something else from then to now?
Talking has produced nothing, warranting action. Elon has been steadily descending into madness for all to see, it’s no secret and it wasn’t fast. Those who still have them and those that buy them even now do so willingly. Ignorance at this stage is not an excuse. These people aren’t vulnerable any more than someone who buys a pair of Yeezy shoes. “What if they can’t afford another pair??” Brother stop.
I bought my tesla before I knew musk was a nazi. I cannot afford to just get rid of it. Anybody damaging my car is not helping the cause.
Exceptions to every rule. Why haven’t you, since learning this, attempted to trade it in? I understand not being able to get an entirely new car from zero but Tesla has kept it’s value until very recently. Why hold it?
Destroying a random man’s tesla is not action. Action is going to your congress man’s door and showing them you mean business when you torch their car. Torching a random guy’s car (who’s probably left of center, given they’re driving electric) is counterproductive.
Really? Tesla seems to be pretty undesirable right now being targets for vandalism. Vandalism inspired by a majority shareholder practicing facism openly. Congress is doing nothing, it’s majority Republican, they will take no action against Trump. It’s a complete waste of time.
Again, if you still have a Tesla now, you are not center left. Everyone’s had the chance to trade it in prior to the stocks diving, right now it’s a conscious choice. It’s not “some poor, random citizen” it’s a Musk supporter. Full stop.
Furthermore, he’s Trump’s boyfriend, even got him to do a Tesla commercial on the Whitehouse lawn. Electric cars are for the right too now!
You assume so much of other’s people’s lives. It must be easy to live like that, huh? Is it so hard to imagine that other people live different lives and may not have had the ability or desire to trade it in? Too bad for them, I guess.
You can have your opinions, but attacking cars of people who are not involved in making decisions that matter is nonsensical and short-sighted at best.
Where’s the assumption? If you buy a luxury brand, you’re not struggling. Buying one of the first EVs is not a “I’m broke” decision the same as buying luxury shoes. Your position is that in the last five or so years someone could have zero ability to trade in their brand new Tesla? Use common sense, I implore you. Obviously there are outliers but no, most people had the chance.
You argue like a Republican, with bad faith “some people might not fit your generalization!” nonsense. Support of fascism should be met with escalating resistance. We’ve had years to discuss it, yet here we are.
If you buy a luxury brand, you’re not struggling.
People can lose their jobs after buying something. People can stretch beyond their means to buy something.
Tesla is not a luxury brand by any stretch of the imagination.
brand new Tesla?
If it’s used it’s by definition not brand new lol. 5 years has not been recent enough to realize musk is a Nazi. Closer to around 2 more realistic. Maybe 1 even.
You argue like a Republican, with bad faith “some people might not fit your generalization!” nonsense.
That’s not a Republican argument.
Trading a car in is a big decision if you aren’t rich, especially if it’s your first newer car.
Sell the Tesla cars for scraps? At least the disillusioned owners would get something.
Turn the car panels into pans. Something stainless steel is actually good for.
Is this enough to save democracy in US, sure it’ll cost Elon some money, but I don’t know if that is enough, it’s the goverment which needs to be protested against, and they seem unconcerned, cause no matter what horrible unconstitutional thing they do, it just seems like all the opposition does is hold up protest signs and write a strongly worded tweet
God no, we failed at saving Democracy. Republicans are shoving their fingers into every dark and dirty spot America has, violating everything and barely lying to try and cover it. What’s happening now is a desperate attempt to do something to not feel so god damn helpless. There is no legal road anymore. There is only one way to wrestle back control from a lawless executive branch and the founding fathers made it clear they intended it to be the end of a musket.
sure it’ll cost Elon some money
The dude is helping himself to the US Treasury. There’s no way he really gives much of a fuck about Tesla sales.
Seems the working class spends too much time attacking their own instead of actually going after elon musk
You know in those movies where the hero has to beat the living hell from a thousand grunts before they are able to get at the boss? And you don’t feel too bad for the grunts, even though they’re not millionaires or the guys doing the big evil stuff, because they chose to align themselves with a villain like the boss?
It’s kind of like that. If people don’t want to own a Tesla because they’ll be targeted for aligning themselves with Musk, Tesla’s stock goes down, which hurts the boss.
I’m not saying I support it (and I’m not saying I don’t), but saying that this is hurting the Working Class and not the real Bad Guy is missing the point.
Counter point = some folks bought Tesla (the normal ones not the weird “truck” things) because they wanted a more environmentally friendly option for a car. Back before awareness that Musk is an asshole was common.
Like some of the owners might be regretful but not in a position to sell at a huge loss and buy a different EV.
The huge loss (in sales volume and therefore 2nd hand price) has mainly occurred because Musk is meddling politically.
Shit dropped from drones is just icing on the cake.
Nah. Musk was calling that rescue diver saving kids trapped in cave a pedo before the model 3 came out. It was clear, public knowledge that he was a douchebag very early on.
Yeah but I kind of expect every CEO to be on that level of douchebaggery. We wouldn’t be able to buy everything if that’s the bar, because the CEO of every company is on that level.
Also we can’t expect everyone to be aware of that story.
It’s when he bought Twitter and started going on about woke mind virus that he revealed himself as a bigger douche than most CEOs.
Yeah, the twitter debacle fucking broke him I wonder if there’s an alternative timeline where he weaseled out of having to buy it and decided to calm down and shut the fuck up afterwards.
Maybe this is the timeline where he eats enough drugs to explode his own heart on a livestream.
Not everyone is online as much as we are. Lots of people are utterly unaware that ever happened.
Being unaware doesn’t protect from consequences. Even morally, in a democracy, it’s up to the people to be informed. Buying decisions drive policy. It should worry people that they don’t have the time nor tools to be informed. This alone should start a general strike.
With all the things that are looming, imagine the price you are going to pay because you were not online enough.
Do you know about the personality of each companies CEO you buy something from?
No. That’s why this is important:
It should worry people that they don’t have the time nor tools to be informed
Cybertrucks are still an acceptable target. He proved who he was by then.
Waiting for an explanation of how we take down a billionaire
They have the drones. They have the acid-filled balloons. Seems like they’ve got the recipe?
Billionaires have to be fought in their wallets. Use their precious “free market” against them.
So far, Tesla stock is down about 60%, sales are tanking, the company image and brand is badly damaged, recovery seems far away, and frankly bankruptcy seems closer. If Tesla dies, Musk loses billions, AND his most lucrative division.
It will also hurt the wallets of many other Sociopathic Oligarchs, who are also heavily invested in Tesla. Destroy a few other companies like that, and they may start to listen a bit harder.
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I think fighting billionaires in their wallets is the exact wrong way because they have so much money it doesn’t even affect their personal life when they lose 90% or more of their wealth.
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Musk already is in a position of power which no money of the world can (or maybe should) buy you. So even if he loses all his money he will still have that power and continue to abuse it.
They dont think about money like we do. I remember a situation in a TV show where a successful actor lost half his money to a crooked financial advisor, and he was commiserating with his normal friends.
“I lost $30 million!”
“Wow, thats awful, how much of your money was that?”
“About 50%.”
“So you still have $30 million?”
“Yeah, but I lost $30 million.”
“Yeah, but you still have $30 million!”
“Yeah, but I LOST $30 million!”
Rich people often focus on how much they DON’T have, rather than how much they do have. That’s why they are always grasping for more, despite having no use for it at all. It’s a mental illness like hoarding, except it’s money instead of old newspapers or cats.
When a Sociopathic Oligarch like The MuskRat loses half his fortune, he isn’t thinking “Who cares? I’ve still got more than I’ll ever need.” All they can think about is how much they lost. This Tesla crash will haunt him until the day he dies, even if it recovers, which I increasingly doubt it will. 50/50 it ends in bankruptcy within a couple of years.
That’s why we should double and triple down and make it really hurt. I’ve taken to actually asking Tesla owners what made them turn into a Nazi. I don’t bother to stand around waiting for an answer, I don’t care. I just want them to hear how people are judging them harshly for their choice of vehicle.
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We already have a demonstration of how to do that a few months ago.
Yeah that all sounds good until you realize there aren’t hundreds of people willing to a) murder bad people and b) sacrifice their lives for it.
You might say the military is full of people who somewhat fit this description but that can only exist through millennia of false narratives about honor and nationalism. The fact that Luigi’s action was controversial illustrates the difference perfectly. How many times have you seen a reaction anything like that to a war crime committed by a soldier somewhere in the Middle East? You barely even saw reactions when we saw videos of people laughing while killing innocent people from a helicopter.
Ya man. That’s pretty much it. Destruction of already paid for and profited on privet property is absolutely pointless.
If you wanna hit these guys hard, people like Elon and his billionair ilk. Take they’re money. That’s what they fight for anyway, that’s all they want and it’s their most greatest fear.
Take their money give them a menial job somewhere getting paid $15.45 an hour. See how they like it.
I dont think its the best way to get at their money but if they continue to get vandalized and ppl either sell them (flooding used market) or don’t buy them, the stock price might return to normal amount. I’m not advocating for that but it seems like a solution
Any alternative solutions for affecting a wealthy persons money?
Musk has lost about half of his money because much fewer people want to buy a Tesla now.
Tell me this is real, it sounds too good to be real
It’s probably made up bullshit to legitimize Moron’s desire to call tesla vandalism “terrorism” and throw people in jail
