• TheDoozer@lemmy.world
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      18 days ago

      You know in those movies where the hero has to beat the living hell from a thousand grunts before they are able to get at the boss? And you don’t feel too bad for the grunts, even though they’re not millionaires or the guys doing the big evil stuff, because they chose to align themselves with a villain like the boss?

      It’s kind of like that. If people don’t want to own a Tesla because they’ll be targeted for aligning themselves with Musk, Tesla’s stock goes down, which hurts the boss.

      I’m not saying I support it (and I’m not saying I don’t), but saying that this is hurting the Working Class and not the real Bad Guy is missing the point.

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        Counter point = some folks bought Tesla (the normal ones not the weird “truck” things) because they wanted a more environmentally friendly option for a car. Back before awareness that Musk is an asshole was common.

        Like some of the owners might be regretful but not in a position to sell at a huge loss and buy a different EV.

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          The huge loss (in sales volume and therefore 2nd hand price) has mainly occurred because Musk is meddling politically.

          Shit dropped from drones is just icing on the cake.

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          18 days ago

          Nah. Musk was calling that rescue diver saving kids trapped in cave a pedo before the model 3 came out. It was clear, public knowledge that he was a douchebag very early on.

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            Yeah but I kind of expect every CEO to be on that level of douchebaggery. We wouldn’t be able to buy everything if that’s the bar, because the CEO of every company is on that level.

            Also we can’t expect everyone to be aware of that story.

            It’s when he bought Twitter and started going on about woke mind virus that he revealed himself as a bigger douche than most CEOs.

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              Yeah, the twitter debacle fucking broke him I wonder if there’s an alternative timeline where he weaseled out of having to buy it and decided to calm down and shut the fuck up afterwards.

              Maybe this is the timeline where he eats enough drugs to explode his own heart on a livestream.

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            18 days ago

            Not everyone is online as much as we are. Lots of people are utterly unaware that ever happened.

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              Being unaware doesn’t protect from consequences. Even morally, in a democracy, it’s up to the people to be informed. Buying decisions drive policy. It should worry people that they don’t have the time nor tools to be informed. This alone should start a general strike.

              With all the things that are looming, imagine the price you are going to pay because you were not online enough.

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                  No. That’s why this is important:

                  It should worry people that they don’t have the time nor tools to be informed

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      Ya man. That’s pretty much it. Destruction of already paid for and profited on privet property is absolutely pointless.

      If you wanna hit these guys hard, people like Elon and his billionair ilk. Take they’re money. That’s what they fight for anyway, that’s all they want and it’s their most greatest fear.

      Take their money give them a menial job somewhere getting paid $15.45 an hour. See how they like it.

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        I dont think its the best way to get at their money but if they continue to get vandalized and ppl either sell them (flooding used market) or don’t buy them, the stock price might return to normal amount. I’m not advocating for that but it seems like a solution

        Any alternative solutions for affecting a wealthy persons money?

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        Billionaires have to be fought in their wallets. Use their precious “free market” against them.

        So far, Tesla stock is down about 60%, sales are tanking, the company image and brand is badly damaged, recovery seems far away, and frankly bankruptcy seems closer. If Tesla dies, Musk loses billions, AND his most lucrative division.

        It will also hurt the wallets of many other Sociopathic Oligarchs, who are also heavily invested in Tesla. Destroy a few other companies like that, and they may start to listen a bit harder.

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          1. I think fighting billionaires in their wallets is the exact wrong way because they have so much money it doesn’t even affect their personal life when they lose 90% or more of their wealth.

          2. Musk already is in a position of power which no money of the world can (or maybe should) buy you. So even if he loses all his money he will still have that power and continue to abuse it.

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            They dont think about money like we do. I remember a situation in a TV show where a successful actor lost half his money to a crooked financial advisor, and he was commiserating with his normal friends.

            “I lost $30 million!”

            “Wow, thats awful, how much of your money was that?”

            “About 50%.”

            “So you still have $30 million?”

            “Yeah, but I lost $30 million.”

            “Yeah, but you still have $30 million!”

            “Yeah, but I LOST $30 million!”

            Rich people often focus on how much they DON’T have, rather than how much they do have. That’s why they are always grasping for more, despite having no use for it at all. It’s a mental illness like hoarding, except it’s money instead of old newspapers or cats.

            When a Sociopathic Oligarch like The MuskRat loses half his fortune, he isn’t thinking “Who cares? I’ve still got more than I’ll ever need.” All they can think about is how much they lost. This Tesla crash will haunt him until the day he dies, even if it recovers, which I increasingly doubt it will. 50/50 it ends in bankruptcy within a couple of years.

            That’s why we should double and triple down and make it really hurt. I’ve taken to actually asking Tesla owners what made them turn into a Nazi. I don’t bother to stand around waiting for an answer, I don’t care. I just want them to hear how people are judging them harshly for their choice of vehicle.

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          Yeah that all sounds good until you realize there aren’t hundreds of people willing to a) murder bad people and b) sacrifice their lives for it.

          You might say the military is full of people who somewhat fit this description but that can only exist through millennia of false narratives about honor and nationalism. The fact that Luigi’s action was controversial illustrates the difference perfectly. How many times have you seen a reaction anything like that to a war crime committed by a soldier somewhere in the Middle East? You barely even saw reactions when we saw videos of people laughing while killing innocent people from a helicopter.