• Bora M. Alper@lemmy.world
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    Cory Doctorow put it more eloquently in Pluralistic: Predicting the present:

    And while Americans shoot people they’ve only just gotten angry at, they also sometimes plan shooting sprees and kill a bunch of people because they’re just generically angry. Being angry about the state of the world is a completely relatable emotion, of course, but the targets of these shootings are arbitrary. Sure sometimes these killings have clear, bigoted targets – mass shootings at Black supermarkets or mosques or synagogues or gay bars – more often the people who get sprayed with bullets (at country and western concerts or elementary schools or movie theaters) are almost certainly not the people the gunman (almost always a man) is angry at.

    One day, as I was swimming in the community pool across the street – a critical part of my pain management strategy – I was struck with a thought: “Why don’t these people murder health insurance executives?” Not that I wanted them to. I don’t want anyone to kill anyone. But why do American men who murder their wives and the people who cut them off in traffic and random classrooms full of children leave the health insurance industry alone? This is an industry that is practically designed to fill the people who interact with it with uncontrollable rage. I mean, if you’re watching your wife or your kid die before your eyes because some millionaire CEO decided to aim for a $10 billion stock buyback this year instead of his customary $9 billion target, wouldn’t you feel that kind of murderous rage?

    But the assassination of Brian Thompson is a wake-up call, a warning that if we don’t solve this problem politically, we may not have a choice about whether it’s solved with violence. As a character in “Radicalized” says, “They say violence never solves anything, but to quote The Onion: that’s only true so long as you ignore all of human history”.

  • Reddfugee42@lemmy.world
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    The gun people were always more scared of brown people than theywere in love with the Constitution. All anyone needs to do to violate the Constitution with impunity is go along with hating brown people and the simple little 2A people think they’re on the same team.

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    Because the gun nuts are on the “same side” as the fascists.

    They’re just too stupid to understand that the fascists will come to take their guns eventually. They never want anyone to be able to challenge their power.

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        The leftists and liberals on 4chan are also on tons of other sites, you know.

        I have firsthand experience with this, being that I too argue with conservanazis on 4chan and I also post here.

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          2 weeks ago a rival image board found an exploit in how one of the boards dealt with pdfs, and somehow used that to leak everything about the mods, the source code for 4chan, and because there were several other vulnerabilities in the code - which hasn’t been worked on in years - they couldn’t bring it back up because someone could just hack it again. somehow, dispite that its up and running again, no idea how

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    You know that bullshit gets tired.

    People acting like the armed left isn’t preparing.

    Like, motherfuckers, the loud 2a advocates were all right wing. The motherfuckers this fake motherfucker is whining about are the ones backing this shit.

    But, more important, why does every motherfucker shooting their mouth off about this think that you win a fucking civil war by just going out and shooting things? Like, does nobody get that attacks need useful intelligence, planning, logistics, transportation, and it can’t be out in the open, you gotta either fight it guerilla, or you’re just dead.

    People are fucking morons.

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      People acting like the armed left isn’t preparing.

      Citation needed.

      But, more important, why does every motherfucker shooting their mouth off about this think that you win a fucking civil war by just going out and shooting things? Like, does nobody get that attacks need useful intelligence, planning, logistics, transportation, and it can’t be out in the open, you gotta either fight it guerilla, or you’re just dead.

      Exactly the point of everyone who ever pointed out that your guns are completely useless if your government ever goes off the rails.

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        After what happened to Fred Hampton, I doubt the armed left are going to pop their heads up publicly unless they’re ready to do something and know they’re not going to get whacked immediately.

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        Well, the other side of it is that it doesn’t matter how good your planning and logistics are if you only have rocks to throw when you get there

        Nobody with a lick of sense ever said that a civil war against an established and well equipped government was going to be fought on battlefields, lined up and infantry vs civilian infantry.

        And it takes more than guns, as the Iraqis and Afghanis showed. But calling guns useless in a revolution or civil war, much less as a resistance or insurgency is just stupid.

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          I feel like it’d have to be a lot like Vietnam, with vets communicating 1 on 1 with soldiers, convincing them not to side with the government (trump has marginalized vets, after all). A military coup would be the best case scenario here. You convert his military, you remove his power.

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        Sorry, I forgot they were supposed to provide you personally with a detailed overview of their plans on a public forum lmao

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        I won’t believe the left is actually seriously preparing until I start seeing some Onion links around. We’re probably on a list just for using Lemmy, which is notoriously leftist, and talking about this stuff publicly, unveiled, with a registered account is honestly below Hegseth level OPSEC

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          Ya we write each post to the fed first and each other second

          Should I be OK since I’m non-violent, well in Kkkamala’s Amerikkka I would’ve been but not so much in again great America

          it’s just words

          - “I Eat Ass” pickup truck guy in a simpler time

          btw you expecting to see violence prior to midterm season + it used to justify martial law to “postpone” the election?

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    Me a Europoor master race :)

    Looks like all that wealth you got in your tech elite is really going great isn’t it?

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    spills the beans on a hot mic

    hadn’t heard that one

    pretty sure Trump was against burning flags too, what’s the new lore there

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    I find it hilarious that Clinton got impeached in 1998 for getting a blowjob (and votes were 50/50!) when compared to this shit show and nobody has even thought of doing anything to stop it.

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      Clinton got impeached for perjury he committed when he was testifying before Congress as defendant in a sexual harassment inquiry. If we hadn’t let the DNC hand wave it away as “just a blowjob” back then maybe it would be easier to hold presidents accountable for breaking the law now.