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    15 days ago

    If you feel any sympathy for a child dying of hunger or being exploded by predator drones then you are obviously a bleeding heart liberal and your opinion is invalid

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      Don’t forget that you’re an anti-semite

      Edit to add an /s, just in case

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          meh it’s pretty clear right at the top she is talking about the harmful rhetoric and tactics from tankies/accelerationists, not pro-palestinian sentiment itself.

          my trans, poc, and migrant, AND palestinian neighbors in my town are afraid for their lives and families daily, and it really hurt to see tankies tweet “bombala harris” back before november when we KNEW what a trump presidency would mean.

          for my part, i have remained staunchly pro-palestine without ever going down the tankie path. and i too wish that better rhetorical and tactical choices were made by some on the left in the interests of the palestinian plight.

          in another section of this post (this is just a clipping) she defines these rhetorics and tactics and it has to do with creating learned helplessness with no communicated outlet.

          tldr, equating “rhetoric” with “sentiment” as you do in this comment is pretty bad faith and natalie’s post doesn’t read as problematic at all to me.

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            Is there a tankie subculture in the USA? Where do they congregate IRL? Somehow I thought the online presence was from other countries

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              unfortunately yeah that subculture definitely exists and really gets around

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      i don’t see a single conflict between either’s words on international politics? but your comment would be more valuable with examples

      without examples seems like ur just comparing two rly talented female creators for like some reason

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      Haven’t watched contrapoints in a long time, but I used to like the channel for the most part. What are the stupid takes you speak of?

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            Seems pretty well reasoned out to me. Much more realpolitik than idealism

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              ooh new words to describe these topics thanks i will be looking into this!

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          As much as I understand where her concerns come from, she’s also an idiot with a powerful habit of overly long and intellectualized responses that only make things worse for herself. The entire way she frames things is “I support everything you want me to, but…” which is a losing way to structure a response to people being frustrated with her. She can’t help herself and simply say “I donated to a and b, here’s a shout-out, this is horrible, but I also make .75 videos a year max and have something else I’m focusing on.”

          I think she likes making trouble and is a prickly person in general. She recognizes that antisemite muslims can potentially abuse leftist anger at Israel, but expects her defeatist attitude to be an effective way to convince people. She just wants to be able to say “I told you so” when some anti Israeli conservatives who hung out with the left do something bad, not get leftists on her side right now.

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            Lol yeah you’re right, the time part of my brain is so broken with the speed of everything these days

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      15 days ago

      Am I missing something? The last Contrapoints video came out over 5 months ago

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      What does Contrapoints have to do with the topic at hand? It seems very random to bring her up without any context or example.

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      She really was just nuanced about American leftist responses. But I guess nuance is hard for leftists who voted for Trump out of spite.