• Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    87
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    edit-2
    2 days ago

    “We wanted a fresh new debacle instead!”

    Edit:

    "As Unknown Worlds’ sole stockholder, Krafton had invested $500 million in the success of not only Subnautica 2, but also Subnautica 3, Subnautica 4, and any other future Subnautica franchise product.”

    Ew. Survival games benefit more than most genres from iteration, but that’s better done as updates and expansions unless they make a truly qualitative leap, which I doubt will happen under their leadership. This reeks of them wanting to pump out as many full-priced titles as possible, probably with an ever-higher price tag as Subnautica becomes an established IP.

    • susurrus0@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      2 days ago

      Survival games benefit more than most genres from iteration

      Subnautica is as much of a survival game as Minecraft is. The only ‘survival’ happens in the first 5-10 minutes of the game and never again.

    • Cethin@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      23
      ·
      2 days ago

      I agree, but Subnautica was more about exploration than just survival. Sure, you could keep expanding the world to add new environments, but eventually that gets out of hand. For a Subnautica type game, making new ones makes sense, especially to address tech debt as well and start fresh.

    • enkers@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      35
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 days ago

      Factorio did it right, IMO. V2.0 as a free update to the base game, launch a paid expansion at the same time.

      Wube is pretty much the only developer I have faith in to consistently do things right.

      • Pennomi@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        34
        ·
        2 days ago

        Rimworld keeps me buying every couple years with absolutely killer DLC that enhances the game just right. And yeah you can get most of those features for free with mods, but first party support is always welcome.

        • Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          21
          ·
          edit-2
          2 days ago

          RimWorld also releases a huge list of polish and quality of life changes for free with each expansion. The latest patch that released alongside the Odyssey expansion obviated the need for about half of the QoL mods I considered mandatory before then.

      • Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        14
        ·
        edit-2
        2 days ago

        A lot of indie devs are good about that. Squad, KSP’s original devs, even mandated to their buyer that all DLCs existing and future had to be free for backers since they’d listed that as a promise on their original Kickstarter.

    • hornywarthogfart@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      15
      ·
      edit-2
      2 days ago

      “We wanted a fresh new debacle instead!”

      “Whenever I have a problem I throw a molatov cocktail and it and bam! Different problem.”

      • Jason Mendoza
    • masterspace@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      21
      ·
      2 days ago

      Subnautica isn’t just a survival game, but a story driven game as well, and given how janky their engine was, it’s not a surprise that they’d want to overhaul it from the ground up.

        • lime!@feddit.nu
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          2 days ago

          i think the comment was more on how they started designing the game with terraformning as a central conceit and a randomly-generated voxel world, then scrapped all that when it was too late to pull it out of the game. so the world is still procedural and fully destructible, but the random seed is static and there is nothing left in the game that damages terrain.

    • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      2 days ago

      Shit, I’ll take sequels over as-a-service any day. Let continuing revenue be the result of making new things and games being good.