Victor Perez, 17, who also had cerebral palsy, had been in a coma since the April 5 shooting, and tests Friday showed that he had no brain activity, his aunt, Ana Vazquez, told The Associated Press. He had undergone several surgeries, with doctors removing nine bullets and amputating his leg.

The shooting outraged Perez’s family and Pocatello residents, and about 200 people attended a vigil Saturday morning outside the Pocatello hospital where he was treated. Another crowd of protesters gathered outside the Pocatello City Hall building, which also houses the police department, on Saturday afternoon. Police snipers were stationed on a nearby rooftop during the protest, though no violence was reported. Many of the protesters held signs with phrases like, “Do better, PPD” and “Justice for Victor,” and passing cars honked in acknowledgment.

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      Please at least know that’s not inherently the case. I’ve never been treated unfairly by the RCMP, but then Canada is my country, not yours, so I can understand you’ve probably never seen a cop who actually helped people. Police in the US are fucking awful, but that’s by design and not by trait.

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          I’ve literally been a victim of the mental health system and I still recognize that was doctors and nurses and orderlies that did that to me.

          That’s not disputing your point, only providing counterargument with context. Those cops in particular should be fired, and are actually bastards. If there was any corruption by police officers I’ve interacted with, I was not aware at any point. Doesn’t mean this is that surprising, it’s not like reality runs on video game rules that somehow make things fair.

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        ACAB is a slogan. It’s not factual in the strictest sense but it captures a truth. Statistically speaking, there is at least one good cop. Maybe even two. Real Andy Griffith, Carlton Lassiter types. Their existence does not change the fact that the system is rotten to the very core, and their tacit support for that system makes them bastards, even if they themselves have never abused anyone or covered for a colleague’s malpractice. Good cops exist, but they don’t last very long.

        And as the sibling comment pointed out, institutionally speaking the RCMP is a god awful example if you’re trying to make a case for good cops.

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          The “good” cops that you are talking about are just the ones that don’t actively molest, rape, and murder people… but still turn a blind eye and give stalwart defense to those that do.

          Actual, legitimate good cops don’t stay cops for very long before being run out or their deaths arranged (Just look at Frank Serpico. who still gets death threats and harassment to this day). because actual good cops don’t turn a blind eye to the violence or corruption.

          And a cop that shakes my hand and treats me with respect, but will ignore and lie to defend his partners beating me and shooting me for no reason, is not in any way a good cop.

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          Well, no. There are no good cops because they work within and prop up a broken and corrupt system. How many cops are you seeing stopping the vanishing of civilians and tourists, for example? If you were to step in and try to stop it yourself, how many cops would be by your side, defending you?

          It works because these heinous ideas are boiled down into simple orders, and people follow orders. There were well-meaning people within the nazi party as well. I’m sure there were even well-meaning people in the concentration camps, leading people to their deaths, but they weren’t good.

          That’s why all cops are bastards.

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        I’ve never been treated unfairly by the RCMP

        I’m guessing you’re not indigenous.

        Just because they’re nice to you doesn’t mean they’re not bastards

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          Maybe so, but at least here people are willing to fucking put themselves between a cop and a Native Canadian they try to abuse, take it to court and the news and the internet, and generally remind people that it’s not perfect here either. Also note that my location probably has better treatment of natives than the areas natives live, which is a problem caused by politicians just like it originally was in the US. At least we try to keep it in check and don’t deny it happens.

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            people are willing to fucking put themselves between a cop and a Native Canadian they try to abuse

            So you acknowledge that the RCMP abuse some people, but you still try to defend them?

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              No, I acknowledge no system is perfect and some of them are assigned specifically to places where natives commonly live by a bunch of suits in Ottawa. Here, it’s a political issue, not a policing issue. That doesn’t excuse anything, abusive RCMP officers are scum as you say, but that doesn’t mean that cops are universally or inherently evil.

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        Dude I have watched enough Lore Lodge to know that the RCMP are also absolute fuckwits, the difference is that they are lazy and incompetent not actively malicious.

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    As an autistic person this scares the shit out of me, and makes me realize just how fucking lucky I am to be alive with the sheer callous evil that I have seen happen towards me and others.

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    Stories like this make my blood boil. Nothing will every be right until these thugs are put in jail where they belong. We are a long way from there right now. More than likely they will give them a raise for killing him.

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        Idastan just brought back firing squads. They’ve already used it once iirc.

        That said, I feel like jail is a worse punishment. I don’t think cops fair well in jail. I want them to be looking over their shoulder for the rest of their lives while in prison. To never get out. To look out the barred window at the world passing them by in their cement tomb.

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    Police snipers were stationed on a nearby rooftop during the protest

    Land of the free

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    so why is that when 5 idiots do something then people scream ACAB all day and night? I am not a cop buy my childhood and current best friend was and he had to go through some fucking shit. he had to deal with suicide by cop, crack addicts just being…crack addicts. idiot people driving around dangerously, bomb threats left and right, angry karens crying about their neighbors and more.

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      How many corrupt cops did your friend take down? If the answer is zero your friend is just as much of a bastard as the corrupt ones

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              That’s terrible! There should be an investigation!

              However, as a fellow internet commentator, I will stand in solidarity with my cheating brother no matter what. I support the creation of social structures that give him special privileges. Cheating should not be grounds for divorce, but only when it’s an internet commentator.

              What he did was terrible. Don’t you dare treat him like the rest of the common rabble.

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                I’m just saying I know a guy who cheated on his wife so that means you did too. That’s the logic here.

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    Police snipers were stationed on a nearby rooftop during the protest

    Hey hey hey now, if you’re going to protest our violence we may get you a whole lot more that, so be careful now!

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      Here’s a reminder that the Black Panthers started because people realized that peaceful unarmed protests were quickly met with police violence… But peaceful heavily armed protests had cops politely watching from across the street. Turns out, cops are a lot less likely to blindly fire into crowds when the crowds are capable of returning fire with overwhelming force.

      Even MLK Jr said that peaceful protest only gets you so far; Disrupting highway traffic is fine for bringing awareness to your plight, but at a certain point the lawmakers and dug-in oligarchs need to be forced to change.

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          Yeah, I was going to mention that modern gun control was started by republicans because they were scared of armed black protestors. But that felt a little too tangential for a single comment.

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    Just a reminder, Blue Lives are supposed to matter less than everyone else. That’s why they sre issued a badge and a gun. They are supposed to put themselves at risk to protect the community. At least, that’s the story we’re told as kids. It’s the justification used to obtain our consent to be policed.

    If police are so afraid for their safety that they kill innocent civilians, even by mistake, then they do not deserve our consent. The do not deserve authority over us, they do not deserve the free use of force, and they do not deserve the legal deference provided them by our justice system.

    Blue Lives Don’t Matter, or it’s fascism.

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          I don’t think he’s disagreeing with you, he’s saying that the law has said “No, police are just somehow allowed to do whatever they want and fuck you.” and that’s grounds for violent revolution because THEY JUST SHOT A KID. THEY WILL SHOOT YOUR KIDS. IF YOU ARE UNDER 18, THEY WILL KILL YOU.

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    What a stupid headline. He was killed from a police shooting, not from being removed from life support.

    Maybe next time a killer is on trail he cpuld just argue that the victim just happened to die later from blood loss, not from the shooting.

    I wish headlines were more direct.

    “Police killed…” “Teacher raped…” “Politician lied…”

    Not “Victim died after police…” “Teacher had sex with underage student…” Etc

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      newspapers are long in the business of not getting sued.

      If you write a story about a rich enough person, they have someone whose job it is to litigate every story about them. It’s automatic. They do something news worthy and all you do is repeat the fact, the lawsuit is on your desk the same day. Doesn’t matter how truthful it is, the lawsuit is there because they are rich.

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    The kid was on the other side of a chain link fence fence! He was literally in a cage.

    Why do we put the community’s biggest cowards in charge of protecting us?

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      I thought maybe there was someone else on the other side with him but nope, just him, stumbling towards a fence. That’s not policing that’s a fucking execution.

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    nine bullets

    Nine fucking bullets to stop a kid with a knife. What the fuck are these pigs thinking?

    They didn’t even try to de-escalation the situation, or use non-lethal shit to try stop him. Just straight out emptying a magazine on him

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      People overestimate the stopping power of bullets. Bullets will indeed kill somebody but it’s not instant like in the movies.

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          Yes, absolutely. But you you have somebody running towards you with a knife you don’t have time to consider and evaluate all of them. “Are they still moving” is pretty much all the input you can evaluate.

          I’m not excusing the cops here. I’m just pointing out the misunderstanding of “why so many bullets” for which I will be heavily down-voted and shouted at.

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            Only lightly downvoted, nice

            # of bullets is always an entirely understandable distraction

            Was a firearm drawn? Was it discharged? Don’t care about # of bullets personally, one could kill my loved one just like 10,000 could.

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    Police snipers were stationed on a nearby rooftop

    JFC.

    Police: oops we shot someone we didn’t have to.

    Also Police: perhaps shooting more people we don’t have to will make things better.