“The bourgeois simultaneous pushing both sides of an issue to divide the working class? Nah, seems far fetched.”
Also, secretly? The worst thing about transphobes is their constant need to be the centre of attention.
Much like gender, the bourgeois are a spectrum.
Exactly. You have rich people who want a progressive society where everyone gets along and is grateful that some people are able to have so much money. And you have hateful fucks who will burn millions to act on their hate. Then you’ve got the cynical ones who play both sides so nobody notices them rummaging through our pockets. And you’ve got cynical ones who fear us and pin us against each other less we go for their heads, but they’ll usually find their hands in our pockets while we’re distracted, all of them will.
He thinks the bourgeoisie is a monolith and “pushes” things in agreement instead of their actions and ideologies being caused by their various material interests, often at odds with each other.
What zero systemic analysis does to a mf.
Pushed by the Bourgeois? Gosh I wish. The reason why trans people have rights is due to years of activism and science. (And the warning power of the church)
The Bourgeois have been trying to stuff us down forever. You saw how fast some corporations dropped their LGBT flags at the first sign of trouble. They don’t care about it
Even were it true, which it is not, that the ruling classes push LGBTQ+ acceptance, Nutomic’s argument would be ignorant at best and dishonest. Either they don’t know of all the historic instances in which those in power have played both sides of an issue against each other in order to divide potential opponents or, more likely, they are willing to selectively overlook it to justify their prejudices.
in other words, it’s true that it’s a distraction, but it’s a distraction in the opposite direction from what tankies like nutomic say. it being a distraction is not a reason to abandon your trans allies, it’s a reason to protect them from the hoardes of haters who don’t readize they act as class traitors when they attack our trans brothers and sisters
Worth noting this is a lemmy developer. (Most people don’t know “Nutomic”)
Thanks this is exactly the context I was missing
And here is the punctuation you were missing: ,.
Yes, they are one of the few people who make big decisions when it comes to the development of Lemmy, and if they do it with bias they can cause problems for the rest of us. Especially since Sublinks is basically dead, no new development happening there. Lemmy is all we have right now, so we’re stuck with it until something else with a Lemmy-compatible DB comes along.
PieFed? Mbin? There are viable alternatives that aren’t that far behind.
Really pisses me off the whole “males competing in female sports” comment from transphobes because it’s just so fucking sexist as well as transphobic.
They clearly look down on the female gender as the “weaker” gender as though they pose no threat. Like at least be consistent in your transphobia ffs.
I don’t know if you’re just not a sports person so you don’t follow enough to know, but it’s not a gender issue, it’s a sex issue, and it’s not a debate unless you literally never look at data.
Here are some examples:
100 Metres dash: every one of the last 25 male world records is faster than the current female world record (and thus every previous one), every continental record is higher than its female counterpart.
100 Metres freestyle swimming same for both long course and short course.
The Williams sisters challenged “any male top tennis player outside the top 200” claiming they could beat any of them and number 203 beat both in the same afternoon, after playing golf in trhe morning and drinking alcohol at lunchtime.
This has nothing to do with transgender rights and what trans people choose to identify as or whether they should be allowed to get surgeries or hormones or anything of the sort, sports are segregated by sex, not by gender, and there is no surgery to reverse male puberty.
Male puberty is akin to a years long round of doping, it literally releases testosterone into the body and, while some markers regress upon taking estrogen long enough (bone density and muscle density most of all), some aspects will never regress, like lung capacity and limb length, both of which are massive advantages in most sports.
There are some sports where this division is unnecessary, famously sport shooting records are very close, with women’s records outclassing men’s records more than a few times, if you ask the federations why this separation persists the answer is almost invariably to encourage females to participate as an “open” league rarely sees female participants.
However, in any sport where physical prowess is a factor, the sex separation exists for a reason. It’s not an -ism, it’s an exclusion for the benefit of females to be able to participate in the sport alongside people who don’t have an in-built biological advantage over them.
What a fucking moron.
What was the plugin this was a reply to?
Not entirely sure. I don’t know if the OP shared their original message.
@[email protected] Shinigami eyes iirc.
Nutomic is entitled to his opinion.
People will sometimes see things differently. This does not necessarily make them wrong or bad.
Sure it does. Don’t tolerate intolerance.
Nutomic can get fucked.
