Banned last night and all my comments removed for calling out a Zionist troll who FREQUENTLY posts comments trashing Palestinians and celebrating death in the name of Israel.

But I’m the one that gets banned for Checks Notes “Rule 3: No Nazis, QAnon or similar”

What a circus, mods did ZERO due diligence before banning and the Zionists comment remains!

So, one of these 4 is a certified Power Tripping Bastard

  • BigFig@lemmy.worldOP
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    Maybe go read some of his comments and you’ll get it. No we shouldn’t give an inch to people who celebrate death of innocents. and the REASON given for the ban makes zero sense.

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      If you call someone a Zionist for making an innocuous comment, even if they really are a Zionist, you are still in the wrong because you assume your audience already knows they are one.

      Since nobody else knows the history, they just see you being an asshole.

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        interesting considering the upvotes then. Perhaps it encouraged SOME people to maybe dig into the comment history.

        People on Lemmy need to keep their eyes open and stop taking each and every comment at face value and start keeping a working memory of who these users are and how the behave, or else we may as well just let the communities turn into new reddit.

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          Nope. I upvote that user’s comments when they seem reasonable, downvote when they aren’t. We learn from each other and rethink our own positions when called out by each other. If that user chooses not to rethink their position, that’s on them.

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            If that user chooses not to rethink their position, that’s on them.

            An individualistic approach to cultivating community is counterproductive.

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              I’m neither admin nor mod. My strength and power lies in controlling me. I report particular nastiness when I see it.

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                Open hostility towards bad actors is useful in driving out the less-dedicated of the bad actors, in establishing norms against bad actors, and in discouraging any would-be bad actors who want to join.

                Every member of a community has the power to contribute to that.

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                  In theory, if we had perfect judgment then maybe this would be a healthy approach.

                  In practice I see a lot of people who think they’re doing this but are just caught up in their own emotions and are really engaged in bullying.

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                    There’s definite caution that needs to be exercised in doing this, at the very least, as well as encouragement of restraint from the community and correction from the same.

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            No thanks, I’m not willing to wait around for a Zionist to “change”. Again, perhaps go read his comments elsewhere.

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              I’m not waiting for them to change. I’m busy with my own stuff. People are telling you to modify your behavior. You are rejecting that. Do you.

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          You cannot seriously expect everyone to keep track of hundreds of anonymous handles.

          I can probably name like 4 Lemmy users and I only remember those because I like them.

          • BigFig@lemmy.worldOP
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            Use a client that allows you to make tags. Not that difficult to immediately label the shitty people like Zionists, Racists, Transphobes, etc.

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              The problem is, nobody else can see the tags you apply to a user. So to everyone else, it just looks like you’re calling someone a Zionist out of the blue if they’re not already familiar with that user’s history.

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              Label them to yourself, sure. Go around shouting ‘ZIONIST!’ everywhere and you come off a loon.

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                Guess I care too much about this platform that I’m willing to call out the scum when I see it and not let it spread bringing us all down in the process

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                  Are there nuances to the word Zionist? I don’t know enough about the culture in the Levant. If you call someone that, you’re assuming other people know what you’re talking about. I strongly suggest you stay away from labels, but call out what they’re actually doing.