Form a new party!!! Don’t call it Labor or Labour. Don’t call it Green. Don’t call it progressive. Don’t call it socialist or liberal.
Just give it a name that people understand and don’t have preexisting bias against. “For The People”
Take on BOTH the democrats and GOP. Become popular overnight. Keep hammering home it is not about skin colour, race or country of origin, but about the billionaires that aren’t happy with paying no tax and having billions. Make it about the 99%.
It is the only way you’ll get your country back without excessive violence. The two status quo parties are hollowed out from the inside. And both are infiltrated by foreign interests.
That’s what Bernie is saying. He’s calling all progressives to run as Independent, aka No Party Preference, down ballot so we can shove the Corporate DNC into the GOP where they so desperately want to be anyway.
“People” = “Communist”
Agreed.
Gotta take a page out of idiocracy here folks.
The Cowboy Party (Named after the most popular/recognizable NFL team)
Or, how about:
The Murica Party
Then you put Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson as your president. I’ve had debates about the feasibility of this approach and this is the modern Ronald Reagan play.
The cowboys are probably the more at divisive team in the country.
Please anyone but “The Turd” he’s just another slimy businessman and will grift this country out of more money.
no. cena.
Not very practical while the US voting system is still first-post-the-post. Y’all need to fix that first.
Unless it really works like it has the potential to. Then the repugs and dems would be totally cooked.
Now is the perfect time. Breaking with the Democrats mean they have to play ball now or get electorally buried.
lets just suck off the people currently in charge until they give up the thing that keeps them in power, then. yeah. that will work.
The halloween party
White Christians who love guns and hate abortions. The clowns will never see it coming.
hate other people’s abortions.
Doesn’t matter as long as they have to look at the two partys ® rebuplican vs (W) Straight white Christian party who love guns and hate abortion. Edit probably “Straight White Christian party” would be enough.
just say “christofascist”. it’s a word, and it was made for them.
Check out the Working Families party. They’re not in every state, but they’re a start.
The Freedom party
The Justice Party
I like Freedom Party, take that word back.
Bernie is already third party, doofus. And if you want to fix anything you have to vote DNC.
We gotta put all our energy into what they’re doing. They’re the rare few on the left that really understand what is going on and how to start fighting it.
You’re right, but consider how poisonous those names have been made to conservatives. Their ears automatically clamp shut.
Know the jacked up part? If conservatives listened to either one of those two, without knowing who they were, they would be all ears.
First time I heard Bernie was on NPR, had no idea who was talking, but I gathered it was a politician running for office. (This was him running against Hillary.)
“LOL, this guy is a joke. You can’t actually answer questions honestly and in a straightforward manner. Holy shit! He just answered a question about Israel without mumbling around. Fucking love him, but whatever he’s running for, he’s going to lose.”
Yeah.
Some of MAGA actually likes Bernie though. A number of them would have voted for him and he would have almost certainly won.
The worst part is that Republicans unironically believe that these are all paid actors.
How can I sign up for that job?
Bernie does UBI at 11.
Cranberry juice bro. Feel the burn.
No, that’s UTI. What you’re thinking of is the common abbreviation for the biggest college in the smallest US state.
Are you thinking of Andrew Yang? Bernie doesn’t support UBI.
It’s a joke; I was saying that by giving people a cushy job such as attending his rallies all over the country he’d be basically implementing UBI.
Digging into who is actually paying them is a fun road to go down as well. They can’t answer. When the democrats were in charge, they’d be paid for by the government!
Now that Trump is in charge, they can’t say that anymore! So they’ll move onto another scapegoat such as Bill Gates, or NASA (and ignore that NASA gets funds from the government).
They can say George Soros or Bill Gates, pretty common namedrops on conservative media.
I don’t think facts or lack of evidence has ever gotten in their way before. They will just say it’s George Soros. Or they will point to fake craigslist posts which can be created by anyone.
“It was fauci and the chemtrails”
in AOC and Bernie I trust
Cool, now win an election
DNC:
The best we can do is normalize Trumpism. Now, for what’s important, how many more terms can we keep Schumer?
It’s wild to me that democrats by and large haven’t realized that the DNC is holding them back. I’ll never forgive them for picking Hillary over Bernie. How different would things be now if Bernie had been the nominee?
I think you’re giving the DNC too much credit. They didn’t “pick” Hillary…she cheated and colluded with Debbie Wasserman Schultz to steal the nomination from Bernie.
Well, they are sitting members of the legislative branch.
They need to organized this momentum into a proper party, maybe call it the labor party or the progress party. But most importantly they need to not be scared to use actural leftist rhetoric and appeal to class conscious workers.
Bernie is already third party
Why does nobody know anything about American Politics, including the Americans…
He’s independent, meaning no party
Because hundreds of millions of dollars are spent to make real information seem as confusing and boring as possible
God I really needed this. Finally some positivity against the insanity. Glad we are finding our backbone!
That’s like the population of a small town
TBF Bernie has attended larger rallies, spoken at them for sure, although possibly not organized or been the central focus of one.
Okay, 34,000 people gathered together for their cause, and then what? What did they actually do?
Did they use the opportunity to communicate and organise themselves, set concrete goals and choose the leaders of their movement that could execute on these goals with their support? Did they all leave with an understanding of what their next actionable steps towards their goals would be?
I look at this a bit like a work meeting in a way, you’ve gathered people together but if all they’re accomplishing is hanging out patting each other on the back for agreeing with each other for a few hours then wrapping up, that’s a pointless meeting.
They need to have a command structure, an organised plan, and a goal with concrete next steps to try to work towards it.
34,000 people took time off work, away from their families, etc, to travel there for something they’re very passionate about, you’d think they’d use that time with their allies wisely and constructively, right?
Given that the media isn’t on their side, just showing up in large numbers to mill about for a bit isn’t going to make big waves, it’ll be quietly reported on and immediately forgotten by those not already a part of their cause. Protesting just isn’t going to cut it. Not until 34,000 becomes 3,400,000 anyway.
But it’s still a great opportunity to build your new movement. Imagine if all those people had gone home knowing who is in charge, what the chain of command is (it’s not like everyone can liaise with the movement’s leader directly all the time, you need a structure to your movement/organisation), and imagine if they had a concrete plan of actionable things they can do before the next meetup (which should have been set by those leading at lower parts of the organisation - don’t leave an important meeting without knowing when your next check-in will be).
Imagine what they could do if they really, actually organised for effective action, instead of just harmlessly protesting.
They have so much power, they’ve just never been taught how to wield it.
The left makes fun of Trump for bragging about crowd size. Can we not do this please? I don’t give a shit about the size of your rally; what are you going to actually do to take the country back from oligarchs?
No, the making fun is when he pretends to have the largest crowd that has ever gathered.
No one says that crowd size is unimportant or without impact.
Can you not do this please? I don’t give a shit about what you think about the size of rallies; and are you really trying to apply arbitrary tolerance policies onto the very people who are attending rallies and showing their frustration about what’s happening?
How is it possible to be so fucking stupid?
Keep in mind, Lemmy’s big enough to have malicious actors on it.
I think the important difference is that they actually compared it to other crowd sizes that (may or may not, I haven’t looked) actually were smaller, like “largest in Denver” and “larger than the DNC”
Versus just claiming something then have it be demonstrably false, “I have the biggest crowd in the history of the world” or something along those lines
The important part is the organization, and showing there are people that can/will do something, then we can figure out what to do next
The DNC has been “figuring out what to do next” for decades.
The left makes fun of Trump for bragging about crowd size.
Yeah that’s when it’s Republicans doing it; when it’s a center-left rally it’s a “demonstration of opposition” or “show of force”.
what are you going to actually do to take the country back from oligarchs?
Nothing, the answer is nothing. Bernie is going to do nothing because for all the good he’s done the progressive movement he’s still Bernie; this is how he’s always done things and he’s not going to change now.
