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    In the words of Duke Nukem, “Hail to the king baby”

    The king being us, the people, who outnumber the billionaires, the billionaires who can still bleed.

    And if it bleeds we can kill it.

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        Useful idiots don’t get a pass for what they’ve done.

        The man was a piece of shit before the first car rolled off. If you didn’t know it’s because you didn’t care.

        Quite frankly we need to start shaming people bad for the products they buy because money is support under capitalism. If you buy something you are supporting that company and all the evil they do.

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          On the other hand, if you only pay for things that don’t support evil, you’ll starve in Capitalism.
          And that’s by design.

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    Tesla could solve most of their problems by firing Musk. Any other public company whose CEO makes a very public Nazi salute would fire that CEO.

    Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder, but I think simply getting him out of the company would give a lot of people the sense that he faced some personal consequences for his actions, and that any companies who deal with Musk will also face consequences.

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      Tesla could solve most of their problems by firing Musk.

      They could have done this a LONG time ago… now the damage is done. Nobody would care he is no longer CEO (although that may help Tesla develop better cars), people are not going to want to drive a Swasticar anyway nor give money to a literal Nazi

      Short of selling all his stock and completely disappearing from the public eye, Musk completely destroyed Tesla. There are simply better options that do not include helping/associating with a Nazi

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        The companies board and senior leadership are his family and loyalists, therefore the company is fascist and should be destroyed, regardless of Space Karens involvement.

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      Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder

      If they fire him, he would sell. This would tank the stock value.

      They’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

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        His family members and deep associates are on the board, they voted to pay him $55 billion. They’re all corrupt.

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      Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder, but I think simply getting him out of the company would give a lot of people the sense that he faced some personal consequences for his actions

      On one hand, that might indeed satisfy a lot of the public. On the other hand, we ought to consider that a bad outcome because the real goal should be to tank TSLA to the point that Musk’s holdings no longer suffice as collateral and he’s forced to sell Xitter.

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        He would need to get rid of his stock before I even consider buying from any of his companies’ products.

        Not getting starlink for my van. I guess I’ll have to stick close to cell towers on work days.

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      I think him being the shareholder is the problem. I don’t care if we was to step down as CEO, I want to see him hurt financially. Especially since he bought twitter off his Tesla stocks. Hit his stock hard enough and when it comes time to pay for twitter, he’ll be fucked.

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        You’re right, but I suspect most people wouldn’t see it that way with regards to Tesla. Depending on the terms of his current compensation package, I suspect it would be better for him financially if he just stepped down and held onto the stock.

        But he’s such a narcissist that he’d never do that.

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    At this point it is most likely that it’s the dealerships themselves trying to burn these for the insurance.

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        I mean if they are the ones setting them on fire they don’t need to claim it is arson since it is. They just need to claim they weren’t the arsonists.

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    When Trump said he’d prosecute tesla vandals “with the full force of the law” it really highlights the unequal enforcement in our system. Its like saying “I’m going to turn on law enforcement right now just for this issue”. He clearly does not believe in laws or law enforcement, or else he’d see how absurd a statement it was.

    This and their dismantling of the EPA, IRS, FBI, and justice system shows that republicans are soft on crime, soft on the legal system in general, and disrespectful of law enforcement, except insomuch as they can be used as personal storm troopers for issues they care about-- usually to promote racism and class stomping of the poors.

    Republicans are soft on America, but rock hard for Russia. I hope republican voters are proud.

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    It’s believed to be the largest vandalism in Canada against vehicles from the U.S.-based car company.

    This strikes me as an odd qualifier.

    Have there been larger vandalism incidents in Canada against vehicles from companies based in countries outsides the states?

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      Maybe your question should have been ‘have there been ANY’ valdalism incidents… Before now

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    Remember a guy telling it is more efficient to paint over sold Tesla to discourage buyers. But we have to admit news of burning Tesla is pretty discouraging too.

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      Seems like the thought is: if you paint a Tesla you prevent the sale of that one Tesla, but if you burn one, the entire populace has second thoughts about buying any Tesla.

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    The dealership has insurance and destroyed cars are like sold cars for Te… that company. Or am I missing something?

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      Does Tesla use dealerships in Canada? In the U.S., they don’t. They have showrooms owned by the company itself and you order online. My state requires dealerships1 and just have service centers here.

      1 It’s a wildly antiquated law. When cars first came out, states passed laws requiring dealerships to guarantee the car companies could service the vehicles. Those laws are still on the books basically because car dealership owners are generally rich people who buy state legislatures. (And there’s a shocking amount who are state legislators.)

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      Insurance companies are now talking about canceling Tesla coverage because of the high risk of vandalism, so it’s making people (including dealerships) rethink their options.

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        “So, you’re saying we get one free claim for as many cars as we can burn in one night without loosing our insurance?” - Them, probably.

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      Big thing is that people now know Telsa’s are not just sold by a loon, they’re a vandalism target. Which is two pretty big reasons no to buy a car from Musk.

      Even if you like Musk, do you want to have high insurance rates and spend time at the body shop?

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        and spend time at the body shop?

        Fun fact: not only do Cybertrucks have bare stainless steel body panels, which are extremely difficult and expensive to repair because you have to bodywork them perfect since you can’t use body filler, they have a frame made out of aluminum, which for various metallurgical reasons (work-hardening, forming a passivation layer that makes it much harder to weld, etc.) is also very difficult and expensive to repair.

        In that sense, you’re probably less likely to spend time at the body shop with a Cybertruck because it’s designed to be damn near disposable.

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          Although, since most people seem to be keying, spray painting, and putting stickers on these cars, the stainless is very easy to clean. Just rub some steel wool in the direction of the stainless grain. Apparently they don’t have any clear coat. You can clean them like an industrial stovetop.

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            Yeah, the damage would have to physically displace (i.e. dent) or chemically corrode the surface of the panel in order to be difficult to fix.

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                Yes. High heat can cause the metal to corrode faster or even melt. (And, ya know, completely destroy the rest of the car.)

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    It’s very sad that people care more about the feelings of cars than the feelings of people. Cars fucking suck. Cars are tools of oppression.

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      It’s not about the cars. It’s about what a powerful billionaire is doing to people.

      Targeting the cars is just a way to discourage Telsa ownership, tank the stock, and give Musk less power and leverage. A lot of his power comes from his ability to borrow against Tesla.

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        For the past 100 years car dependency has been the sole reason for the destruction of the working class. Henry Ford the Nazi, combined with conspirators in the US government, bulldozed low income neighborhoods to build highways and create suburban utopias for rich white folk.

        Car dependency is a disease which needs to be cured.

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          Ok, but the point still remains. This vandalism isn’t about the cars. It’s about taking money out of a billionaire’s pocket. People would be vandalizing Starlink satellites if they could reach them.

          It’s not about the cars, the cars and stores are just an accessible target. This is about Musk and DOGE.

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    Demonstrates to the American electorate that democrats celebrate and encourage criminal behavior. How does this help you win elections? Do you think an independent looks at this situation and thinks “Yes these are the people I want to be in charge.” So shortsighted and childish.

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      As opposed to republicans that elected a 34 count felon, court-certified rapist, pedophile president? Party of law and order, am I right? Be glad that it’s shitty, overpriced EVs they’re targeting.

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        There is a different view to your statement. We live in a democracy and we had an election where the citizens chose a felon, Nazi, dictator over your side. They would rather have a court certified rapist in charge than you. Just think about that and understand how repulsive and out of touch you have to be for that to happen. This effort to destroy Tesla is only hurting your cause. It is counterproductive, childish, and small. It’s almost like you want MAGA to win the next election.

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          We live in a democracy

          Do you?

          It’s almost like you want MAGA to win the next election.

          Assuming there is one

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            Yes the next election will be in 2026. This is why people question your ability to interpret reality.

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      You sound like a conservative plant lamenting the so-called peaceful liberals, you’ve been sold a lie

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        Why would i be a conservative plant? I think America needs two viable political parties and presently one party cannot compete. Their interpretation of reality is questionable making them repulsive to normal people, which is why they won’t vote for you.

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          Why are you trying to frame it as a Democrat versus Republican thing both sides can have equal amounts of grievances with the shit ass state ofthe fucking presidency right now

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            It is obviously liberal burning down charging stations, spray painting swastikas, and throwing molotov cocktails. With Democrat politicians celebrating and encouraging the behavior. Im not framing it’s reality.

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        Whilst I do believe the American people were sold a lie (I’m not American) I think the barrage of down votes and cheap shots being thrown at @AidsKitty are undeserved. They clearly have a different view point on certain things but all their comments are polite and express their views respectfully. Anyway that’s just how it looks to me 🤷

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    I’m not too concerned about the dealerships. They have insurance. But can these people stop doing it to privately owned vehicles? And also, stop harassing the telsers on the road. I’ve seen a few videos now of drivers being harassed. That’s not Canadian.

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      But can these people stop doing it to privately owned vehicles? And also, stop harassing the telsers on the road. I’ve seen a few videos now of drivers being harassed.

      No. We need to make fascists afraid again. If you don’t want to be bothered for owning a Klankar, then stop owning a Klankar.

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        To be fair, one of my neighbors bought one years before he knew about this, I don’t believe he had any idea. I don’t necessarily think he should have his car burned.

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          This is why I hate the left is there is a ton of people just as stupid as people on the right. They have no social intelligence. They’re out for blind rage blood. On the left and the right these people have that bipolar energy and rise to the top becoming our new voices of reason.

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            This is why I hate the left is there is a ton of people just as stupid as people on the right

            There are people who support a fascist, and those who oppose them, and those just waiting to see who wins.

            Which side are you on?

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              This is as narrow an understanding of things as any Republican which is my point. But can’t call that out right that would make me a centrist even though I’m not. Can’t be critical or you’re labeled a “them”

              There are flowers that smell pretty and there’s flowers that look pretty and there are those that aren’t really flowers but trees. Which ones do you like?

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                So, are you opposed to fascism, for it, or just waiting for the winner?

                Or, what’s your other option here? I fail to see any other at this time.

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                  I don’t really think in terms of fascism. It doesn’t seem like an accurate way to think here

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        So you do realize that a lot of people bought these well intentioned vehicles before Musk became a total fuckstick, right?

        Not everyone has the luxury of being able to just go sell their vehicle that they are more than likely underwater on with the loan and can’t just pivot.

        Nuance my friend.

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          Except they came out after it was pretty well known he was one. He’s been a known piece of shit for a while now.

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          Depends on the model. People are mostly attacking cybertrucks in the wild.

          If it’s cybertruck, the owner knew, or chose not to know.

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          Go back to the times of Hitler, and imagine that you suddenly found out he owned the brand and proudly explained that those driving it represented his will.

          I’m sure you’d find a way to sell it then.

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            Sell what exactly? Trying to be rational in an increasingly irrational world?

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          I bought mine 6 years ago. I’m going to get rid of it but had to change plans because my son’s car just died. I wouldn’t blame anyone that vandalized my car. It should be expected.

          Mine has been debadged for years but I just put BYD badges on it. I doubt too many people will know what that is but I hope someone gets a chuckle.

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            This mentality is frighteningly close to one that justifies vandalism on businesses because they use temporary foreign workers. I don’t condone the destruction of private property owned by the rank and file of life. It should be directed at those who are doing actual harm

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              It should be directed at those who are doing actual harm

              They are doing actual harm, by not being afraid of any association, regardless of how weak, to a fascist.

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                  So, the time has come that people need to ask themselves: Are they willing to be associated with a fascist, in any way? If they are ok with that, why?

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        afraid of what? These people are going to get caught and made examples of and honestly most of the world are not big fans of assaulting other people by proxy. Like I’m not okay going to break the windows in your acura because I think you bought a vehicle where the CEO turned asshole after the fact.

        This was funny for a minute. But continuing to do it looks like we’re just a bunch of stupid childish cunts.

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          afraid of what?

          Afraid of being associated with a fascist.

          This was funny for a minute.

          It was never funny, it was, and is, just great to see.

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      I’ll use my fucking free speech to flip off teslas while I still fucking can. Until you physically stop me you will deal with it.

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        Flip them off all you’d like. That’s fine.

        When you start brake checking people just cause? I don’t think yer doing the cause any favours.