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Doesn’t it seem strange to you guys that you hear these exact same talking points from the Donald Trump people?
It’s almost like all these nationalistic authoritarians have more in common with each other than with the rest of us…
With how far Trump is up up Putin’s ass, not strange at all.
I think Putin’s and Trump’s agendas differ a bit. Putin is an irredentist megalomaniac that loves his past as a tool of KGB oppression and wishes it back, Trump is just an old, demented, tired-of-life racist.
I hate the ‘the West prolongs the war by supplying weapons’ take that I’ve also seen being uttered. Fuck right off, Russia prolongs the war each day they spend in Ukraine.
I somehow never hear anybody say that the allied countries prolonged WW2 by taking up arms against Germany. We even celebrate that fact each year. Mindboggling mental gymnastics on how we could do the same for another country, but now intervention is suddenly a bad thing.
Yeah, Britain got exactly what it deserved during WWII.
The west has definitely prolonged the war, but only by being pansies about what weapons we supplied Ukraine and how they were allowed to use them
Avoiding global nuclear annihilation is typically a good move.
If Russia was going to drop nukes, they would have already done so the past several hundred times they threatened to do so. It’s all saber rattling.
That’s pretty easy to say in hindsight.
Hey how about you empty your bank account and give it to me?
If you don’t I’ll press the nuclear annihilation button.
- You don’t have any nukes
- No
How did you know I wouldn’t destroy the entire world, including myself, for your minuscule possessions?
If only this lesson could be applied somehow to global political theory…
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Russia does not seem to want to turn itself, and the world around it, into radioactive ash anytime soon, despite their constant threats.
The current tankie take to justify the war to avoid just accepting that Russia is conducting imperialism is that Ukraine is a Nazi country. That’s it, no nuance, nothing. It’s a Nazi country that needs to be liberated. No, you’re not allowed to ask any follow up questions. You can get that straight from Cowbee along with 19 pages of bullshit . It’s their current meta.
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Oh, their “current” meta is so old, they can’t come up with anything new.
“Doctors prolong the illness by providing medicine for an otherwise deadly disease.”
I mean, yeah, if Russia really wants peace, then they should get the heck out of Ukraine, but Russia (and Russia puppets) have been constantly violating the agreements before 2022, and after 2022 they are bombing our country almost every day with missiles, drones, etc. Though, I think the West is prolonging the war by not helping enough, or very slowly.
Stopping the supply of weapons and money, with the surrender of Ukraine, will be a nightmare for the Ukrainian people, not a “peace”.
You forgot “it’s not a war, it’s a special military operation!”
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You have misunderstood, it’s 3 years (https://sh.itjust.works/post/39338196), and soon 1 million russians hurt or dead, I wonder when the population will wake up.
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“but Putin says the people living in those border regions are majority ‘ethnic Russian’ so invading is okay”
Stalin used a similar justification for invading Poland
Yeah, we know very well where these ethnic Russians came from, or rather, their ancestors, and where the Ukrainians (and not only them) who lived there disappeared.
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Some tankie argued me that the Crimean bridge bombings were unethical and illegal because is somehow “civilian infrarestructure” like WTF dude.
I distinctly remember the days just before the Russian invasion in a subreddit that is full of Russian bots. They were dismissing the potential Russian invasion as Western hysteria. And for once, I was inclined to agree because after the lies to invade Iraq, I was skeptical of CIA assessment. Moreover, it is utterly stupid to invade a group of people who historically hate their previous imperial masters. That’s like Britain invading India and Ireland again and expecting the British to be welcomed in open arms.
But then the unthinkable actually happened-- Russia did invade. However, Ukrainians valiantly held themselves and embarrassed the Russians, and doing so to this day.
The Russian bots in the subreddit I mentioned have immediately gone quiet after the invasion and haven’t posted for a couple of days. The anti-Kremlin posts during that time were not getting any push back. Like the actual Russian soldiers who were not informed that the invasion will actually happen, the bots and their handlers themselves were also surprised, and they were waiting for marching orders on what talking points to propagandise. The bots returned with precisely the talking points you just summarised. But at the same time with predictable pattern since then, Russian bots go quiet whenever Russia suffer embarrassing setbacks such as the Russian withdrawal from Kyiv, the 2022 Kharkov and Kherson liberation, Ukraine’s invasion into Kursk, and now the destruction of Russia’s fleet of bomber planes.
My favorite was when they were saying Ukraine was full of Nazis, so it’s ok if they get invaded.
I heard the same type of bullshit on social media up to the January 6th insurrection.
They are so pro-Russian it’s crazy. I dont get it, so they are basically like a US MAGA movement … except they like Communist China and the Communist Russian party.
How’d my in-laws get on the internet?
There’s tankies in my country who literally believe “South China Sea” belongs to Mainland China.
Gulf of America
Renowned tankie Joseph Robinette Biden (and other foreign policy experts) was warning already back in 97 that NATO expansion would lead to a violent Russian response. That’s well before he went senile and was elected president. So maybe the third row of the picture should move to the top.
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There’s a Wikipedia page called NATO enlargement. You can also Google the Biden quote and see what he’s referring to.
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What a well researched take! Good job, buddy!
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I’m glad I had the opportunity to have this conversation with you, you seem like an intellectual powerhouse.
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Not that you added anything to this conversation yourself, I don’t know what response you expected to the nonsense about NATO expansion “threatening” Russia.
These are right wing Nazi statements, not tankies
Potato potato.
Indeed. Which is why it is so odd that the tankies are constantly uncritically regurgitating them.
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