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LOL Tiktok sent me a message for posting “Incarcerate Mango Mussolini” as a violation of it’s community guidelines so it seems like it’s happening everywhere.
Fuck you tiktok, you can’t stop me.
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I have just left Reddit and deleted my account, on account of this.
Fuck Reddit.
The website is attacking the users that made it the front page of the internet
No they aren’t. Those users have long since left Reddit lol
Yeah, it’s a playground for bots and misinformation now
i started visiting reddit back around 2009 when places like digg and fark kept linking over there. i liked it because it had a design that the average person wouldn’t like - the old design. they sorted comments in a new way that i liked. it’s been a slow boil, but look at the reddit monstrosity now. the redesign is puke-inducing, and there really isn’t any point in the vote sorting any more because people don’t upvote for visibility any more insomuch as just use it as like/dislike. there isn’t even any benefit in trying to point that out any more either, because today’s reddit users just don’t understand that approach to votes - and it really, really sucks.
Hmmm, perhaps people should start linking threads from here on reddit…
Believe it or not: straight to jail.
Wouldn’t reddit be the jail in this situation?
I want to upvote this because I like it, but now I’m conflicted because I don’t want to inadvertently abuse the upvote mechanism.
yo - upvote it if you think it’s worth it for other people to see it, whether you agree with it or not. it might spark a debate. it might sway opinion. but either way, voting for visibility is the best thing to do on a SMALL forum like this. Appreciate lemmy while it’s still small!!!
AND fwiw - your upvotes should probably not be monitored. that would just be a huge dick move (sorry, it took me a sec).
Im not going to upvote something if I don’t agree with it. I understand the power of voting, it increases or decreases visibility. But I am not going to willingly increase the visibility of something I don’t agree with.
Imagine if someone comments with what you see as a stupid take, but phrases it as a legitimate question indicating a willingness and even eagerness to learn: I often upvote such, bc that’s an attitude that I’d like to see more of. The alternative for them would be to keep silent and remain in their ignorance?
Conversely, someone that says “^This” - I may likewise agree with whatever they responded to, but that’s what upvotes on the latter content is for, and there’s no need to also upvote the former along with that.
Considering e.g. a thoughtful, insightful, well-researched post with a conclusion we completely disagree with and feel is likely to lead to negative outcomes - but is still a perspective that should be understood if we want to be well rounded:
Binary up/downvotes have a really hard time of capturing what we want to see reflected as our assessment.
Edit: blessed be thy highly-voted child comment
As someone from the U.S., it seems like that concept has practically disappeared from the country. The nuances of civil debate, including the acknowledgement of differing opinions as valid, don’t exist in most of our popular media (both traditional and social.) We’ve been conditioned to react to things immediately and intensely using our emotions instead. There has been a slide toward this state for decades, but it’s come to the point where a lot of people genuinely struggle with separating “thing they personally disagree with/don’t like” from “thing that shouldn’t be said/heard/shared.”
(Not saying that’s the case with OP, just that it’s definitely a thing that’s been going on.)
that’s exactly the ideal! i know it feels weird these days to upvote something you don’t like, but it isn’t about what you like. it’s about what you’re showing approval for to the next person.
I don’t know if you like music like this, but it made me smile so why not share? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW48BueSJzo
Same as any social media site.
Reportedly Reddit was not always that way though, earlier on.
I feel like the admins over there really take for granted how much people care about Reddit. The more they degrade the sense of community, the more it continues to crumble until users feel that there’s no point in going back.
With how many posts are just pure AI generated rage bait, it’s becoming more clear by the day how little worth there is left on Reddit.
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they get thier money from google and openai.
[deleted] is a common user name there!
Did they change the way things are formatted? Such as the [removed] comments now just appearing as [deleted]? Deleted would imply the users removed their own content while removed would imply the mods or admins removed it, at least that’s how things have always been. However, I have only been seeing a sea of [deleted] lately.
After the API kerfuffle, a lot of users who left also used tools to completely erase their content from the site, which explains the sea of [deleted] posts and users. You may also see comments and text body posts that are full of incoherent gibberish because one of the tools didn’t delete the content in the normal way, it simply edited the content to be a bunch of random gibberish.
it simply edited the content to be a bunch of random gibberish.
I used a tool that did this. I also used it on purpose because I figured it would make the content more difficult to farm. Lots of software doesn’t actually delete anything when you delete it, but it’s a lot more work to put versioning in and then you’d have to go search the version history to find a version that wasn’t mangled to farm it…so that’ll all theoretically make it more difficult for them to find what I originally wrote.
i just ended up deleted all my comments on my last 2 accts, so they cant be farmed, unless reddit undeletes them. wonder when reddit is going to pull a FB ressurection, revives your account but controlled by AI bots for right wing disinformation.
They’ve already been caught doing that - well, not for disinformation spreading but for engagement appearance, around the time Reddit was doing its IPO so needed to hike its stats to give to advertisers as quickly as possible. While entire posts, comment for comment, though with different usernames but the identical responses to the identical questions, and then deeper responses to those, and so forth.
So they don’t need the appearance of older accounts - they can manufacturer whatever they need, from scratch already. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if they created “10 year old” accounts at will.
It likely looks to them as if the accounts that remain to be moderated are humans, the same as it was in the past, even though it’s no longer that way now.
I think the USA has taken a deep dive in international standing since January 2025, and Reddit is a USA-flavored USA-centered content publisher in terms of front page community. Things were pretty anti-USA with all the support of Israel in 2024, but now in 2025 with Elon Musk being the center of all USA society attention every minute of every day, sites like Reddit are being turned away from (or people only reading to mock the USA) - where the HiveMind is extremely USA technology consumerism / technology lifestyle worship.
For example, I never witness anyone on Reddit criticize Apple Computers for funding Twitter / X in 2025. It’s tech addiction as the primary religion on Reddit. And I think those outside the USA are sick of that machine lust / machine mind behavior of Elon Musk, Zuck, Amazon, etc.
“Technopoly is a state of culture. It is also a state of mind. It consists in the deification of technology, which means that the culture seeks its authorization in technology, finds its satisfactions in technology, and takes its orders from technology.” ― Neil Postman, Technopoly: The Surrender of Culture to Technology, 1992
Time to go find video game discussions to comment Luigi on
Unfortunately those aren’t safe either :/ The article mentions how several subs for the game Luigi’s Mansion got banned, even though they have nothing you do with Mangione
Hopefully we do none of that.
You can always switch instances if your lemmy server implements policies you don’t like
But can you know that what you see through your instance is being manipulated?
Wouldn’t be that hard to archive and validate your posts and it’s so easy on lemmy to leave a bad instance.
That… doesn’t really answer the question. So it’s relatively easy to leave, but how would you know that you needed to in the first place?
If the voting of posts on an instance were being manipulated, or the visibility of certain sources or users, or if commercial influences were affecting administrative decisions or moderator behavior, how would you know?
How do you discover that you are in a bubble? That the information being presented to you is intentionally skewed in order to project a narrative?
How do you exit Plato’s cave if you don’t know that you are in it?
By having an external source of truth to compare against. In this case you could spin up your own instance, and as a mod you could see where all the votes were coming from, so you could simulate having the same set of defederations as some other instance. Anything that does not match up then warrants further examination.
People did something similar and found that lemmy.ml was modifying its internal database logs - though it was claimed that it was merely due to the newest software release that it alone was running at the time, before it got rolled out to become public. I never followed through on that further.
That’s all somewhat expensive to do, but basically if you run your own instance then you have total control. (Even then, you won’t know what’s going on inside of the OTHER instances that you do not control!).
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I hope Reddit dies! Free Luigi!
Be careful, .world mods are likely to bad you for calling for action
But that’s not a call to action. Or is that the joke? Lol
You cannot wish for anything to die on .world, especially if it is a person or a corporate-person. The “centrist” .world mods look down on anything that makes capitalism or republicans look bad.
The instance operators are just trying not to get legally accountable for it? Call for murder is prosecutable in many countries. Also in the Netherlands where that instance is located.
Oh fuck off, name one lemmy instance, with evidence, that has ever had a run-in with the law.
Just the fear of that alone was enough to cause dmv.social to shut down, back during the waves of CSAM attacks, before the automated software was implemented to filter it out.
So what you’re saying is I’m right.
oh, it won’t… it’ll turn into a weird cross between thedonald and 9gag in a few months. mark my words.
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Dude something very weird is going on on Reddit. I’ve been through it with them for 12 years and this is like nothing I’ve ever seen.
I finally deleted the terrible Reddit app when my feed was blasted with repeated comments that “Reddit is far left and the left are domestic terrorists.” Sorry what?
These very weird not based in reality comments are posted almost verbatim in every thread. These people usually never respond to conversation.
It’s very very weird
I think your prediction is probably spot on. Reddit already feels like incel 9gag with a bunch of Russians pretending to be American college students.
Edit: oh if that’s your optimistic take then oh wow haha I am staying here on Lemmy I’ll start posting too
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Please stop propagating click bait titles. For all that is holy, this is Lemmy and we’re better than that.
Right?
Agreed. Although the times I’ve tried to lower the sensationalism, the post didn’t do very well even though it was interesting. 😅
we’re better than that.
Right?
Eehh
What’s Reddit?
Zombified Lemmy ancestor - - it’s on the net.
Cries in MySpace.
I think, ultimately, the fate of any non-federated social network to eventually become another tool of the ruling class is simply a function of the hierarchical nature of the capitalist system. Federated platforms are resistant to this, but not immune, and I fear, with the rise of cheap Turing complete software, federated platforms are doomed as well.
What do you mean by “cheap Turing complete software”?
LLMs
Finally, Reddit can die
I was one of the many MANY victims of unjust banning, and I just want my niche communities here, all the weird expansion and transformation porn I like, DBD Shitposting, and The Sims 4 troublshooting… ahh…
Cardinal rule of being a reddit refugee on lemmy: if you want a specific community from reddit that doesnt exist here already, start it.
Can I interest you in [email protected] I started it this week. It’s for all things women from fashion to strident feminism.
Luigi is not a hero. He is an alleged hero.
I suggest using a euphemism for Luigi from now on. Sort of like how Pres Xi of China was “panda” on chinese social media to avoid censors. How about Muski? Eloni?
Green Mario
Elon Musk. President Donald Trump’s extremely online lackey has aimed plenty of ire at Reddit from his perch at DOGE, first attacking the federal workers he’s been firing en masse for discussing the chaos on r/FedNews, then expanding his purview from there.
Fuck fElon, fuck spez, fuck trump, and fuck the american oligarchy.
Glad people are starting to realize this is how the ruling class wanted to take away our freedom of speech.
Their goal was to get us all on their company platforms where the only discussions that are allowed are the ones the ruling class deems appropriate.
I mean… that’s how they make their money, so… yeah?:-)