I’ve been in so many corporate jobs where they dismiss candidates because they couldnt solve brain teasers or explain what they would put in a ultimate burrito. I shit you not.
Nobody mentioned being shocked; your “counterpoint” is countering a point nobody made. You don’t have to be shocked to be busy or avoid answering unknown numbers, ( which is the norm now )
It’s expected that a caller with a legitimate professional purpose would leave a message. Has been since the answering machine came around. This isn’t some sort of novel wholistic approach to someone’s personally, it’s a specific, arbitrary filter to find people who don’t follow normal telephone interaction behaviors.
This is insane. Why wouldn’t they leave a voice mail? Why do you expect people to be available at all times?
For example, what if I’m in the middle of a bike ride when this person calls back? Or driving? In the shower? Taking a dump? In a sensitive conversation? On the phone with someone else?
This is the whole point of voice mail. There are plenty of reasons people might not answer the phone, even before the “spam call” issue comes into play.
No, the original argument was about not even leaving a voice mail, just expecting someone is going to answer their phone every time it rings regardless of the situation.
Sure, and if those calls are important, if those callers expect a response, I expect them to leave a message. Giving my number to a potential employer doesn’t mean I must answer every single call I receive on the off chance it’s an employer that’s received my resume, and it’s frankly confusing that you seem to be arguing that.
Counter-Counterpoint. If you call someone, you should understand that they may be unable to answer to phone at a that specific time, and you should use the tools at your disposal, such as voicemail, to facilitate further communication.
Nothing screams “hires the whole person” like dismissing candidates for arbitrary reasons like being too busy to answer the phone.
I’ve been in so many corporate jobs where they dismiss candidates because they couldnt solve brain teasers or explain what they would put in a ultimate burrito. I shit you not.
Counterpoint. If you give someone your phone number, you shouldn’t be shocked if they try to call it.
Nobody mentioned being shocked; your “counterpoint” is countering a point nobody made. You don’t have to be shocked to be busy or avoid answering unknown numbers, ( which is the norm now )
It’s expected that a caller with a legitimate professional purpose would leave a message. Has been since the answering machine came around. This isn’t some sort of novel wholistic approach to someone’s personally, it’s a specific, arbitrary filter to find people who don’t follow normal telephone interaction behaviors.
If you are not going to answer unknown numbers, don’t give your number to unknown people.
This is basic logic. Nothing to do with imaginary “normal telephone interaction behaviors”.
This is insane. Why wouldn’t they leave a voice mail? Why do you expect people to be available at all times?
For example, what if I’m in the middle of a bike ride when this person calls back? Or driving? In the shower? Taking a dump? In a sensitive conversation? On the phone with someone else?
This is the whole point of voice mail. There are plenty of reasons people might not answer the phone, even before the “spam call” issue comes into play.
Your “basic logic” is extremely flawed.
The argument is not about availability. It’s about answering calls from (listening to messages from, calling back to) unknown numbers.
No, the original argument was about not even leaving a voice mail, just expecting someone is going to answer their phone every time it rings regardless of the situation.
So I understand you’ve literally never picked up a cellphone. Do you know what they look like?
I take it you often give random people your number then never answer your phone.
I don’t. And yet people seem to get it anyway, pretty regularly.
Is that robots calling random numbers, or people specifically calling you? If its the latter you ticked the wrong privacy box somewhere.
Calm down Adam Landers
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So, I shouldn’t put my phone number on my resume?
If you are not going to pick it up, don’t put it on there
You can’t be possibly this dug in about this, so I have no choice but to believe that you are a troll. A bad one, at that
This is logic, not opinion.
Hand out your number to random people, you should expect to receive calls from random numbers.
Sure, and if those calls are important, if those callers expect a response, I expect them to leave a message. Giving my number to a potential employer doesn’t mean I must answer every single call I receive on the off chance it’s an employer that’s received my resume, and it’s frankly confusing that you seem to be arguing that.
Counter-Counterpoint. If you call someone, you should understand that they may be unable to answer to phone at a that specific time, and you should use the tools at your disposal, such as voicemail, to facilitate further communication.
Oh yes. The boomer is at fault also (but will try calling again). His attitude wasn’t my argument.