Russia and the US did not make progress toward a peace deal for Ukraine during their talks, a senior aide to Vladimir Putin has said, hours after the Russian president issued threats that Russia was ready for war with Europe.

In remarks to Russian media, Kremlin aide Yuri Ushakov said that after a five-hour meeting with Trump envoy Steve Witkoff and Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, the two sides were “neither further nor closer to resolving the crisis in Ukraine. There is a lot of work to be done.”

The downbeat assessment of Tuesday night’s diplomacy follows combative opening statements from Putin as Witkoff and Kushnerarrived for talks at the Kremlin, in which he accused European powers of sabotaging peace in Ukraine and that “European demands” on ending the war were “not acceptable to Russia”.

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    Russia is struggling against one country, how TF do they think they could take on Europe as a whole?

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    I watched that part. Putin visibly flinches when he realizes what he said and then for the following few sentences tries to lighten the message down. It’s kinda fun to see him that weak in front a microphone.

    He’s so not ready for a war with Europe that he cannot even lie about it.

    But headline creators don’t give a fuck about that of course.

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    well if Russia is as “ready” to fight Europe as it was to fight Ukraine, we have no problem

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      Destroyed lives and whole towns is hardly a “no problem”. russia needs a good kick in the teeth, but these things are never free. I hope Europe is ready to finally stand up.

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    He says, as they are press-ganging migrants to fight on the front lines and fabricating evidence in order to seize oligarch fortunes.

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      He did not say what the original headline (post titles) implies. The headline has since then been edited to better reflect Putin’s words: “Russia does not intend to fight Europe, but if Europe starts, we are ready right now.”

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      They said they would never attack Ukraine. In fact they’ve written it down and signed it.

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    Russia wasn’t even ready to invade one of its former blocs. And that bloc has more than decimated its forces and resources.

    But hey, my grandfather got to watch Allied Europe destroy a fascist state that thought it could take over the world, now me and my son get to as well.

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        This is actually reasonable in warfare and encouraged by Sun Tzu, but once the deception is exposed, there is little advantage in clinging to it.

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          But there’s also nothing to gain by admitting and stopping the deception. As long as there’s one useful idiot who can be deceived, you cna keep it going.

          And unfortunately there’s a lot of useful idiots.

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      Except this time the fascist states are nuclear capable. The idea here is to avoid nuclear war.

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        That’s always been a lopsided proposition for Russia in this invasion. The prevailing winds blow east and they’d be poisoning themselves as much as anyone.

        You know, like Chernobyl which they also bombed.

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        They said ‘more than decimated’, so your semantic pedantry isn’t just pointless, it’s also wrong.

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    Lmfao no you’re not, fuckwit. You’re deploying infantry bum rushes in appropriated civilian sedans with the doors ripped off. The Taliban has better kit than that, for fuck’s sake.

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      According to the tankies, Russia now has the largest army ever at 1.5m men and are stronger than when they started the special operation. So like they have …the cards…and not just endless meat waves. It doesn’t matter they’ve only gained inches of territory in months.

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        Or that Ukraine is holding them off with basically scraps of obsolete Western military equipment, very little first line hardware. Attack Europe and you find the full weight of NATO’s first line military hardware shoved up your ass. Somebody pushes a button somewhere and a few dozen Tomahawk missiles destroy your ability to wage war in an afternoon. Nukes not even needed if every airfield and military supply depot within 500 mi of Europe is a smoking crater.

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          And Ukraine using some modern stuff manage to deep strike Russian economic targets. And new homegrown stuff too.

          Putin is trying to save face and trying to entice NATO to attack Russia to justify the wars

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      OP reproduced in the post title a doctored headline to make Russia sound aggressive. The headline has been modified since, and isn’t reflected in the post title as of my comment. Putin’s original words were “Russia does not intend to fight Europe, but if Europe starts, we are ready right now.”.

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    Russia losing to a small country and now think they can take on all of the Europe?

    We know his orange sock puppet has full on dementia, maybe Pootin needs a checkup too?

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      The original headline was heavily doctored to make Putin’s words look much more aggressive, and has been edited since, which isn’t reflected in the post title as of the time of this article. Putin’s actual words are some paragraphs into the article: “Russia does not intend to fight Europe, but if Europe starts, we are ready right now.”

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      You forgot that this ‘small country’ has the second largest military in Europe behind only Russia, and one that was trained by NATO since 2014.

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        When Ukraine was invaded it had an army of approx 150k troops. Several hundred tanks. A couple of hundred aircraft. A couple of hundred rocket projectors.

        None of it newer than the early 90s.

        Russia had nearly a million troops, 12,000 tanks, several thousand aircraft, thousands and thousands of rocket projectors and heavy artillery.

        And nuclear weapons.

        Tell us again how they were evenly matched?

        By any normal metric, Russia should have steamrolled Ukraine. The fact it didnt, even with that huge advantage means that any major european power (UK/France/Germany/Poland) could fend them off quite easily, even alone. But we aren’t alone, Russia would be trying to take us all off the board.

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      Yeah, anyone seeing this as Putin doing jackshit is kidding themselves.

      This is about having the US attack Europe. Or maybe just Ukraine. Who knows.

      It doesn’t really matter. What matters is that the US is compromised, and Europe needs to be ready for that yesterday.

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        I don’t see an appetite in the states for war with Venezuela, a nation we’ve been conditioned to think of as godless socialists for 20+ years, let alone one with NATO allies. Trump doesn’t have unlimited power, as much as he wishes he does.

        Either way, Europe should be gearing up.

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          I concur that a fight against EU is just completely unlikely, I do think Venezuela is possible since his administration has pretty much been giving free reign and seems to have their heart set on it…

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        I don’t think having the US attack them is in the cards, but I could see them sitting such a conflict out.

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      The original headline was doctored by The Guardian to promote warmongering in Europe, and has been edited since (not reflected on the post title as of my comment). Putin’s actual words were “Russia does not intend to fight Europe, but if Europe starts, we are ready right now.”, you can find it inside the article some paragraphs in.