Cowbee [he/they]

It’s a courtesy to tell the other user that they shouldn’t expect a response, and an extension of good-faith.

I don’t know who you are, moreover this now seems like a personal vendetta with me you want to air out. If you want to have an actual discussion with me and see if we can find common ground as fellow leftists I am more than willing to, but that’s hard to do if you call me a troll, Trump supporter, sealion, etc just for trying to engage in a conversation in the first place.

I never said you hate leftists, though. After you called me a Trump supporter unprovoked, I asked if you think all Leftists critical of the DNC and GOP count as Trump supporters in your eyes, as there’s no other conclusion I could have gathered from your unprovoked claim.

Isn’t that more your conclusion about me than anything else? You admitted elsewhere to trying to get banned so you can make this post and call out “hypocrisy.” Seems more people are siding with me on this one.

If you want to have an actual conversation, I’d be thrilled, but it looks like that wasn’t your aim in the first place.

Ignoring the attempt at psychoanalysis (which I disagree with your conclusions about me), I never claimed you weren’t a Leftist. I asked if Leftists being critical of the DNC and GOP alike were all Trump supporters in your eyes, right after you called me a Trump supporter for asking why you think the Dems will suddenly become meaningful opposition come the midterms when they aren’t already.

It really isn’t my fault when people come onto Lemmy.ml and start slandering users as Trump supporters and trolls and get themselves banned. I never reported you for it either. I would much rather get some form of agreement with you and come to a consensus, because debate is largely stupid. My intention when talking with other users depends on the context, but generally focuses on trying to educate on Marxism and Marxism-Leninism, or on discussing contemporary political issues (like the Dems being, in my opinion, woefully insufficient to oppose Trump, revolution is necessary).

I intentionally broke rule 2, because .ml users do it all the fucking time.

If I’m reading this correctly, it looks like you were fishing for a ban that could be seen as a double-standard so you could make a post here.

Moreover, you never labeled yourself an Anarchist, and I haven’t been hostile towards Anarchists, I myself used to be one and am sympathetic despite now being a Marxist-Leninist. Additionally, I never said you weren’t a Leftist, and your label of me as a Trump supporter happened entirely unprovoked.

For what?

I didn’t call you a liberal here, and moreover I only implied your hostility to Leftists critical of the DNC after you called me a Trump supporter. My initial comment just asked why you think the Dems would start meaningfully opposing Trump after the midterms when they aren’t already, which is a reasonable and non-inflammatory question.

First, if you don’t want to continue arguing about the original point, it’s not my intention to continue it, just explain myself. Your original comment was about being upset at the meme for potentially “discouraging people from voting Democrat.” If you don’t want to call that being pro-Dem, then that’s fine, I’ll adjust my phrasing, but my question in response to that (shown in the image above) is in no way trolling or sealioning.

I wasn’t saying you weren’t a Leftist, I asked if Leftists being critical of the DNC were all secretly republicans in your eyes, and I asked as such because you had just labeled me a Trump supporter unprovoked. Is that not a bit hypocritical, when you claim to be upset at me for implying you aren’t a Leftist?

All in all my point is that my initial comment was not mean in any way, and you responded with meanness. The rest of the exchange was me clearing my name. If you wanted to disengage, you should have done as other users have suggested and just said “disengage” or not responded.

Yep, this is correct. I couldn’t just leave the implication that I’m a Trump supporter uncontested, that was slander, they nullified the disengage rule by doing so. I’m fine with not continuing a conversation people don’t wish to continue, but not with people trying to use the disengage rule to hide behind personal insults towards me.

I don’t follow, where is the implication that I’m a troll? OP’s complaint was that me as an ML was left alone while they as an Anarchist were punished (though there was no indication that they were an Anarchist, just being pro-dem).

Oh hey, it’s me. In my opinion, if you want to disengage, you shouldn’t also lash out and expect to not get called out for that final lash. If I just left the accusation of me being a Trump supporter open just because you said you didn’t want to argue, then that can be seen as admission of being as accused, ergo I responded to that specifically rather than continue the conversation you disengaged from.

In the future, if you want to disengage, then either just say something like “disengage” or don’t respond. If you insult, you aren’t disengaging, but inviting further engagement despite your stated wishes to not engage. It’s like throwing a sucker punch then saying “no punchbacks.”