• shalafi@lemmy.world
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      27 days ago

      People place money before people. This isn’t a system problem, it’s a human problem.

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          26 days ago

          Are you saying human nature changes depending on the economic system? Are you aware of an economic system where people do not fuck one another over money?

          And I’m not talking about communism in a tribe of a couple hundred. That’s natural and efficient. I want to know how you propose to manage the economic activities of 10s of millions without people fucking each other over for money. Hell, dial it in to several thousand people.

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            26 days ago

            they don’t.

            they have no answer other than vague hopes and beliefs that human nature is inherently good and that the ‘right system’ will prevent people from being people.

            capitalism scales very well. collectivist action doesn’t. it’s best in small communities really. it doesn’t do well beyond a few dozen people unless you start having really rigid social codes and structures…

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        26 days ago

        It’s a systemic problem created by people which produces people prone to encouraging the systemic problem. We’re actively in the acceleration phase which results in a bloody reset. People are a product of their environment and the systems that bind them.

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        26 days ago

        I agree with your point about the difficulty of designing a good system for millions of humans to play well together.

        I just have a small nitpick. People do not place money over other people, they place their own needs and wants over other people, money is just one tool for it.

        Whichever ideal system we could design would need to take that into consideration. And sociopaths, which is a whole other thing.