Documentation of Lemmy.ml's Extremism [Megathread]

cm0002@lemmy.world · edit-2 3 months ago

Documentation of Lemmy.ml's Extremism [Megathread]

1984@lemmy.today · 8 months ago

Haha ok. I would never be happy sitting behind some blockade on the fediverse, unable to even see what others are saying. Its funny that you are so afraid of their opinions that you have to lock yourself in the basement. But you do you. :)

Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works · 8 months ago

No one is afraid of their opinions. Everyone who has been on the fedi for a while has heard them, over, and over, and over. The mods, and the portion of the users who are grouped in with them, are campists who will defend anything places like China do, even if it is the exact same shit as the western imperialists. They also tend to spout a lot of apologia for harsh, punitive, legal systems, and police states, as long as it calls itself socialist. Hell, don’t even need to do that anymore, just have to be like “hey NATO imperialism bad!” and they will come to defend the honor of a country that is actively annexing, and colonizing, other states, because imperialism is acceptable when it isn’t the west. It is just them defending themselves, and/or liberating oppressed people, just like the US claims every time it bombs somewhere into the dirt. I have witnessed multiple instances of .ml users automatically dismissing any data from any source “western”, while claiming you aren’t capable of having a good faith argument, if you dismiss information from the CCP, in kind.

I find that the large body of .ml users are not like this, but their mods, and a significant portion of the users, namely the most commonly seen names, are very much this way. There is no argument to be had, there is no fruitful discussion here. They are in their camp, and they can’t seem to truly understand people can hate both camps, and actually not want what either offers. So why interact at this point?

SkyezOpen@lemmy.world · 8 months ago

Yes, “Mao was good actually” is terrifying to me. It’s such a fresh, novel, and revolutionary concept that I feel my mind unraveling every time I see a brave ml warrior post it. Same with “war is bad so Ukraine is bad for defending against invasion.” The sheer intellect required to achieve such a unique understanding of these concepts is truly intimidating.

cm0002@lemmy.world · 8 months ago

Haha ok. I would never be happy sitting behind some blockade on the fediverse, unable to even see what others are saying.

There’s a difference between a veteran Lemming making a conscious choice to “see the other side for themselves” and a tentative-ex-Redditor checking the vibes of a new unknown place.

Its funny that you are so afraid of their opinions that you have to lock yourself in the basement. But you do you. :)

Lol, no. I’ve read their opinions, debated them multiple times even, and have come to the conclusion that their “opinions” are as toxic and/or dangerous misinformation as far-right “opinions”. Authoritarianism is authoritarianism whether it’s right or left shaded.

If anything, I’m afraid of the potential damage it’s doing to the Lemmy-verse.

Every person that comes here, is another person Reddit has lost and another notch against corporate social media. And that’s a beautiful thing worth protecting IMO

1984@lemmy.today · edit-2 8 months ago

100% agree with the last part. But misinformation is fought by having discussions about it, not by censoring it.

You say you are afraid of the potential damage its doing to the fediverse. Well, now you have removed your voice from the discussions. They will still be there, even if you are not looking at them. You just walked away from it.

You know when you “protect” kids by not talking about something, it only becomes more exciting to them? I dont know, I rather just talk to the kids about it. Have a laugh about how weird the world is together.

And I agree, debating them is not really worth doing. But state your opinion and walk away. I have some unpopular opinions too that Lemmy doesnt like. But I keep saying them. Because i still think im right about those things. But im not going to debate for long. Its not worth our time.

SkyezOpen@lemmy.world · 8 months ago

But state your opinion and ~~walk away.~~ get dogpiled by tankies calling you a western propagandist and then banned.

Fixed. Seriously just scroll this comm to see what kind of “discussion” they allow.

1984@lemmy.today · 8 months ago

Its understandable that tankies may react that way. But im not a tankie and I think their response leads to complete ignorance about what the world actually is.

So maybe we shouldnt act like tankies ourselves, being members of the western world, with a more democratic view of what people deserve to have and be?

SkyezOpen@lemmy.world · 8 months ago

Nah, no civility-pill crap. Allowing an echo chamber so detached from reality to remain connected to the largest instance will only serve to alienate people who don’t fellate a statue of Stalin every morning. If it were possible to actually have nuanced discussion there, I would feel different, but it isn’t, so I don’t.

guy@piefed.social · 8 months ago

Ignoring the misinformation, support for genocides and authoritarian regimes, no one is afraid of their ‘opinions’.

It’s just that most .ml users are absolute cancer to discuss with

Documentation of Lemmy.ml's Extremism [Megathread]

Documentation of Lemmy.ml's Extremism [Megathread]

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Dessalines - Head .ml admin - Head Lemmy Dev

Davel - .ml admin

Nutomic - 2nd in command Lemmy Dev

General Tankie user behaviour

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