• lobshevik@lemmygrad.ml
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    I sad part, they started saying that Hamas has started the ceasefire violation and Israel has to take actions. AGAIN!!!

    “Israel vows FIRM response after Hamas breaches ceasefire: BLATANT VIOLATION” - Fox news 3 hours ago btw

    This ceasefire is just a tactic by Israel and right wingers just to get the popularity again by pleasing libshits.

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    Hamas should’ve just executed all the hostages when they had the chance. Stupid to assume the zionists would ever be true to their word

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        I’m sure contradictions can satiate their appetite. The “hostages” were all prisoners of war, captives, kidnapped from their tanks. What did they get in return for releasing them? A little bit of aid? The hague would not have prosecuted them for their warcrimes. They should have executed them live on camera.

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          What would they get in return for executing them?

          By releasing them they have put Israel in a position where it can no longer hide behind hostages, if it restarts the extermination campaign now the contradictions will become unsustainable. In the meantime, aid trucks are still getting in (not enough, never enough) and this does more to satiate their appetites than executing prisoners ever could.

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            You’re right, my head hasn’t been in the right place in responding to this news. I apologize to everyone for the crashout

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              TBF, I do understand WHY one might crash out on this. Anyone who reads a single history book, that isn’t just Zionist lies, can see that this has been going on for over 70 years, again and again and again, while the USA settler government keeps feeding the Zionist settler state more weapons, more money, etc. It’s frustrating because the government only cares about how it affects the bottom line, regardless of the cost to humanity. Hug your friends and remember to BDS. Hang in there, comrade.

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          They got many many remains and prisoners back.

          Also, they are using this current opportunity to purge collaborator gangs.

          This situation also allows for temporary alleviation of acute famine conditions.

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      They’re not “stupid”. They’ve lived this all their life. They know it more than you and I do. After everything, the last thing to do is to blame Hamas, which lately has been the only internal force able to threaten Israel, as well as bring such amount of attention to the Palestine struggle to a point bigger and more radical then Arafat. No, I don’t condemn Hamas, as if that’s some kind of prerequisite before giving the most obvious facts. It’s an idealistic way of thinking, you need to take into account the material circumstances. The people are desperate, and if you think about it, it makes Israel look even worse, since you can always point to the ceasefire being broken to easily debunk the “retaliation and peace” bullshit. All in all, it’s a pretty strategic move.

      Edit: This is in no way a personal attack, just (in my opinion) a more material analysis. I’m sure you’re good intentioned; I was just angry from the suffering of the Palestinian people, while there is an Israeli drone above me right now, so sorry if I came off as blunt.

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        Except zionist media has never been truthful about this shit. They’re already peddling lies about Hamas breaking the ceasefire. Why play by their rules that they don’t even follow? Iran is falling into a similar fate as well. Play by the imperialist’s rules and then get your nuclear sites blown up after inviting the IAEA to provide all that information to the zionists.

        The remainder of the “hostages” Hamas had were IOF soldiers, do you think “israel” would show the same restraint to keep Hamas’s resistance fighters captive? Hamas, like Iran, should not follow the rules set out by the imperialists. The imperialists do not even follow their own rules!

        I stand by what I said, releasing the “hostages” now gives them zero leverage. Would have been better off executing them live on camera, it’s the only punishment these war criminals would have received.

        Also don’t worry about the way you worded it habibi, I didn’t take it personally from you, was just more upset because everyone should have known this would happen.

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          They’ve done a lot to keep the hostages alive and safe despite their own starvation and conditions. “What about the hostages” is what every zio piece of shit has been wailing for the past two years.

          The amount of attention Palestine has now pales in comparison to even two years ago. Israel has now lost the POW excuse and has reverted back to pouring money into ridiculous blatant propaganda as if it’s still the 90s and no one has internet. The genocidal state seriously thinks saying, “Palestinians tore apart a beached whale” will make everyone forget everything we’ve seen. It will not.

          When it comes to optics, and especially humanity; Hamas has footage of one of the IOF POWs kissing one of their captors on the head before leaving. That’s a far-cry from chainsawing someone on the internet.

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          It doesn’t matter. Hamas technically got, or at least, may have gotten, what they wanted.

          I think many knew this would happen; only one with the shocked Pikachu faces are the liberals.

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          Let’s say they denied the ceasefire deal and killed the terrorists live (which I would love to do with my own hands). Then, Israel will bomb the little remainder of Gaza to the ground in days - weeks. Everything that moves will suddenly become Hamas “terrorist”, and so, more destruction, even less aid, more death, more suffering, no release of Palestinian tortured prisoners, and less international solidarity, since now the Zionists have the argument of “They don’t want peace”, which zionist platforms like tiktok are going to blast on full audio, and it will cause internal resilience from the suffering people of Gaza. Habibi, all these are way worse than Israel violating the ceasefire, yet giving some aid, some Palestinian prisoners, and some tiny break for the sake of the people, and for the sake of eliminating the internal zionists in the strip.

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            The last I read was one article yesterday, which states that 6000 trucks are refused entry. I suspect any aid being let in as a fig leaf for the ongoing genocide, through starvation, bombs, and roving comprador gangs. But I’m not there, and I’m not aware of current trustworthy reporters being there to document what’s going on inside, so there’s that.