This stupid shit has really reached levels of dumb that I can’t handle. Wtf is anything? Why does Forbes care?

  • Bishop_Owl [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    11 days ago

    Are we really trying to get off on the technicality that it doesn’t count as abuse if the animal has already been murdered? Eating animal products is participation in systemic animal abuse on a vast and infinitely cruel scale. It’s a contradiction in the same way it would be a contradiction to say “I don’t like pedophiles but I’m fine with child trafficking.”

    There is no such thing as ethical consumption of animal products, by the way.

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      10 days ago

      There is no such thing as ethical consumption of animal products, by the way.

      debatably heirlooms. My grandpa’s coat could last a long time if we take care of it and there’s no justice for the animals in destroying it.

      also theft, although that’s deliberately unsustainable and the idea would be a campaign to make them unprofitable to sell and inconvenient to buy.

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        10 days ago

        There is the aspect that, by wearing a leather or fur coat or whatever, you are normalizing the perception of animals as products to be turned into useful items. That said, I understand people who don’t see that as a big enough reason to throw something out and buy a new thing (any production of anything is going to have a negative impact on the world, so using the animal products you have is arguably more vegan than buying vegan products to replace them) but yeah in general this is one of those edge cases where I don’t see much urgency in deciding which approach is “correct”

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        10 days ago

        I mean yeah, it’s not harming an animal actively, it can be argued that it would be a waste to just discard the item? If someone owns some hand-me-down leather boots that have lasted them a decade the amount of damage they’ve offset by not buying a dozen pairs of petroleum based boots is worth something.

        Does dignity factor in for animals? Would people feel different if the boots were made of dog leather? What if you can’t wear petrol based footwear cause you work at the smeltery and normal shoes will combust? What if carnists see your cool skin boots and decide cool skin boots are in this fall and go out and buy them in droves?

        I’m starting to get a little silly with it, but I think there are valid questions here.