• PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catOP
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    17 days ago

    Centrist Dems are half the reason we have Trump.

    More than half, I’d say. That’s precisely one reason I think it’s weird that you’re coming out against someone who wants to get rid of them.

    Don’t try to frame this as some anti-Left thing

    I mean, this guy’s left, and you’re anti- him. Sounds like it is an anti-left thing. Again, that’s actually what irritated me about your message.

    this is about milquetoast, feckless neolibs who have and still do spend enormous effort preventing the party from actually aligning with its voting base.

    Absolutely.

    If he’s not that, I support him fully!

    Yeah. If he’s not a child molester, then I support him fully too! Isn’t that a weird way to frame things?

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      17 days ago

      this guy’s left, and you’re anti- him

      What part of “reserve judgement” do you not understand?

      If he’s not a child molester, then I support him fully too! Isn’t that a weird way to frame things?

      It wouldn’t be if he was the Vice Chair of an org that had historically been run by child molesters, as the DNC has and is run by Centrist Neolibs.

      If he is not a neolib, he would be the exception to a very longstanding precedent of DNC leadership, so I think it’s a very fair question to pose, especially right when Sanders and AOC are making news as they are.

      The DNC leadership is not going to go down without swinging, and I fully expect them to try to co-opt Progressivism as a label and redefine it rightwards. Like I said, if he’s not that, and throws his weight behind established Progressives or better, awesome!

      But I will heavily scrutinize anyone that any DNC leader is backing; we don’t need any more Fettermans or Sinemas, even if it’s just a post-election “conversion” to the Center.