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      And even in the most insanely charitable world where we assume he is “trolling”, he’s still saying an intensely offensive thing to Canadians without any reason other than “lulz.” That’s the most charitable possible interpretation and it’s still awful.

      Of course, most Americans don’t realize it’s an intensely offensive thing. That’s a major part of the problem.

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        I wonder if Musk taught him this trick. He keeps pulling it out of his ass every time negative news (that he actually cares about like his recent polling numbers) comes out and he wants to distract from it. This is exactly what Musk used to do before he took the mask off.

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        Of course, most Americans don’t realize it’s an intensely offensive thing. That’s a major part of the problem.

        “America is the greatest nation on earth, why wouldn’t another country want to be part of it?”

        That’s what happens when a population is spoon-fed “patriotism” from birth. All the nationalism and propaganda is doing its job promoting American exceptionalism while diminishing empathy and critical thinking.

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          Reciting every day in school how great your country is, is peak brainwashing to me. When I learned about that, it was so weird to me.

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        As someone who lives in America, I don’t understand how anyone DOES NOT think it’s offensive and threatening and a horrible stance for a president to have. But the ones that don’t think it’s a big deal is how we got where we are and I’m disappointed in my country… again.

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    He is not trolling. He is genuinely threatening our sovereignty, and we are taking that seriously. The United States is an enemy nation.

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      Are you guys arming yourselves via a rearmament program like pre WW2? Because you should be if you take him seriously. The best don’t tread on me animal is a porcupine. Defensive

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        The porcupine’s only weak spot is its face. Which is why the pine martin eats the porcupine’s face. Not sure how that affects this metaphor but it’s a cool nature fact.

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        If the US invades, there’s no amount of rearming that would stop them from completely destroying us. Acquiring nukes would be our best bet.

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          The US military has always proved to be very vulnerable to guerilla warfare, they’ve lost a few wars due to guerilla warfare. Canadians know their landscape and they know how to hunt and shoot, they’d put together an excellent guerilla force, and they could easily blend with American soldiers. They are also comfortable with the cold. A MAGA invasion of Canada in the Winter will be like the Nazis invading Russia. Also, all of Europe will suppport Canada.

          A good portion of the US military will refuse to follow orders to invade, and resign, defect, or go AWOL, and whoever is left will be nearly universally unmotivated to invade Canada. Many military leaders will work behind the scenes to sabotage the illegal invasion. Those disenchanted military personnel will find the competent, experienced military that HitlerPig fired, ready and waiting to build a strong, motivated military force to oppose MAGA on Canada’s behalf.

          In addition, 2/3+ of America will never support the invasion of Canada for ANY reason, and will align with Canada. HitlerPig will be forced to waste resources dealing with the uprising at home, distracting him from his foolish invasion.

          Any HitlerPig military operation will be defined by virtuosic incompetence, which is his most reliable characteristic. He will be fighting his own military and citizen population every step of the way.

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            100% this. Which is why I kind of chuckle when I hear people worried about martial law.

            Even with every cop and military officer in the country you still could not hope to restrain a properly motivated American population. They have no hope of even restraining half of the population.

            People know their own turf and this country is far too big for that. Wanna do it to Canada? The country with some of the most consistently capable and highly regarded soldiers of the past 100+ years? Good luck. Lmao

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              Couple of problems there:

              • The American population is not properly motivated. More than half of the adult population are not fit (mentally or physically) to fight anything or anyone. Now, if Canada invaded as an act of liberation, it might be a different story.
              • You might get 15% of the police and 20% of the military to do what’s right, but the problem is that the 85% and 80% of those are the ones who will retain access to weapons and ammo.
              • You’re acting like the only way to win a war is to conquer every single square foot of it, Civilization style. If Canada held NYC, DC, and maybe Chicago, for a month, they would win.
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                I’m not stupid or acting any specific way. Im very realistic on this subject and very aware that any meaningful rebellion would likely take years of asymmetric warfare but they would absolutely lose.

                Definitely not what we want but it may be what this comes to.

                if the military sucks against insurgency and they do, the cops definitely aren’t going to be any help. Start shooting at protesters and you’re gonna see shit that makes 2020 look like a children’s party.

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          Yeah, it’d be a three day special military operation. Just like when Russia took Ukraine.

          Americans are extremely averse to casualties and pain. We could make an invasion hurt. I doubt they’d be able to endure a genuine war that genuinely enters their homeland. Not for long.

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        Woah now, don’t leave out us southern Canadian friends in Minnesota. We have the Mayo Clinic, Lake Superior, and hot dish.

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            No. We predominantly voted Harris. And Minnesota has historically voted democratic since 1932. Only have voted for the republican president 3 times since then. In the 50s and 70s.

            We also have abortion rights codified in our state legislature. The running mate of Kamala Harris, Tim Walz is our governor.

            Under its Democratic Gov. Tim Walz, Minnesota has expanded union protections, approved over $1 billion in housing resources, enacted universal paid family and medical leave, funded free school lunches, hiked corporate taxes and more.

            Source

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      Should drive turnout for Carney.

      Ah yes another liberal who’ll fail to defend our countries borders, another Trudeau but this time with pizzaz.

      If there ever is a war with the US I sure as shit want access to real firearms, none of this 3 rounds per mag headache we got now.

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        And how, pray tell, is a “real” firearm going to help defend against the most technologically advanced army in the world, who can take you out from half a planet away without you ever seeing anyone until you are ginsu-bladed in half (reference: https://www.pcmag.com/news/us-used-drone-carrying-knife-missile-to-kill-al-qaeda-chief)?

        We don’t need more firearms in personal hands when it comes to our national defence, we need alliances, a better standing army, and probably some form of nuclear deterrence. Thinking you’ll make any meaningful difference with your personal firearm and a couple of hours on the gun range is the exact same magical thinking 2FA nuts keep using while the US government takes their rights and freedoms away.

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          You misunderstand.

          Yes, one Canadian with an assault rifle can’t do much against 5 American drones.

          But one Canadian with an assault rifle can do much against 5 off-duty American soldiers relaxing in a restaurant.

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        Yeah… nah. I don’t want school shootings as a trade off to a hypothetical American invasion, plus, pp would fucking bend over and spread to trump. A handgun or a 30 round mag won’t make a difference.

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          don’t want school shootings as a trade off to a hypothetical American invasion

          So hypothetical school shootings are better eh? Keep in mind I’m not pushing for the Canadian version of the 4th amendment, as you see in another one of my comments I encourage proper safety training beforehand.

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              The data is already there, RCMP chiefs across the country endorse it, targeting licensed firearms owners is not the answer to solve gun crime.

              Majority of our gun related crime comes from illegally smuggled firearms from the US.

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        If you mean “go vote to change things” or something along those lines, then I need to remind you that only people from USA can vote in the USA elections and that not everyone you’ll find online is from USA. Have a good day.

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          Canadian election is today. Who they choose is who’s gonna have to handle or succumb to Trump.

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          I need to remind you that only people from USA can vote in the USA elections and that not everyone you’ll find online is from USA. Have a good day.

          I was addressing my fellow Canadians, because the Canadian election is today. Ironically, it seems you assumed I was an American talking about the USA.

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            No, I simply assumed your comment was referred to me since that’s who you were answering to.

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    Doomberg says he thinks he wants Carney to win, since the only way a pipeline is getting built to Europe is if a left leaning government does it.

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        Well I mean he’s the lefts guy. Not that he’s actually progressive, he definitely didn’t give a shot about the housing bubble when he was the governor of the BoC.

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          He’s the liberal’s guy, the left don’t really have a guy in this election. Even the NDP have gone hard to centre since the Jack Layton days

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    Sorry… is hectoring supposed to be heckling? Trump is the hector in this case; he can’t make Canada the hector. When the first non-proper-noun word out of a writer’s keyboard is that far off what they meant, I have difficulty taking anything else they write as anything but regurgitated vaguely understood hearsay.