New York Mayor Eric Adams did not mince his words about his disapproval of what he called the large number of “nasty” Gen Z voters supporting Zhoran Mamdani, the democratic socialist candidate leading the race for NYC mayor.

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    9 days ago

    I’m not a Gen Z voter, so I certainly can’t speak for them, but I hate our country. I hate that so many Americans are being left behind. I hate that we are falling so far behind other democracies. I hate that our democracy is so flawed and corrupted, that I’m not sure it’s accurate to even call it a democracy anymore. I hate that so many Americans believe that being greedy, selfish, and indifferent to human suffering is not only acceptable, but somehow “rational.” I hate the manipulation and the misinformation that is very intentionally disseminated to the American people. I hate the violence, I hate the war mongering and war profiteering. I hate a lot of what IS right now, because I DEMAND better for myself and ALL other Americans.

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      You don’t hate our country, you said so yourself - you hate what it is right now, because you know it can be better. You want it to be better. That’s not hate, that’s love.

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      I don’t respect anyone who isn’t radicalized at this point. To look at the state to which our system is broken and not demand change by whatever means necessary is to be complicit in the atrocities being committed.

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      i am a gen z voter and although i dont live in nyc (i live in ny state tho so close enough i guess), i was gonna leave a separate comment. but you said pretty much exactly what i was thinking 🤷 i hate the selfishness that’s been so ingrained in people, they’d rather perpetuate cruelties than hope for anything even slightly better. i hate this country? what has this country ever done for me, a woman of color, other than prove time and again that everything i have can be taken away in an instant due to the greed of the rich and spiteful? this shit is all so fucked, if my so called “hatred” for this country is the only thing i can truly own, then let me own it with all my heart. i’d rather that than submit to apathy and ignore the struggles of those around me

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    If Eric Adams doesn’t like NYC, he can just stay at home in his Jersey apartment.

    Even better, he can move down to Mar Lago and see how MAGA would really treat him.

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      He’s been a fraud for a long while now (probably his whole career back to NYPD, which pains me a bit to say because iirc he got his start calling out their racism), if he keeps trying to delegitimize the will of the voters like this we can start adding things like “tyrant” and “traitor” to his titles

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    He should just become a Republican already. He’s got the credentials.

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    Actually Mamdani’s government would improve the country in a lot of ways, and would also be a big win for the economy of the owning class. That is because if people have more money, that stimulates consumption and that drives the economy forward. It’s like a big engine, you gotta put fuel in it to drive it.

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      Yeah, but you gotta think of the shareholder value for the next quarter! The Chinese think in decades. We don’t! Capitalism FTW, baby!

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        Who cares about the profits of tomorrow even if they would be 10x what they are today… the number went up today see… we are doing so good!!!

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        nobody actually cares about shareholders, the entire foundational idea around stock-markets was to essentially act as a liquidity trap, to seperate the new-rich from their $. and it was a resounding success.

        as with many other things, most of the rest of the world regulated out the most glaring flaws in this setup so that it’s atleast somewhat functional, but certain rules/exceptions to rules exist within the american system that act as obscene advantages to insiders a/o old-money.

        every single “crash” is by design, and the next rugpull won’t be too much longer now…

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          Don’t you mean the people with the closest and fastest connections so they can make pennies on trades before everyone else and make millions for basically no effort except some fancy stock trading algorithm they regularly update…

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            no, algos and day traders are just exit liquidity

            there are very specific rule-differences between the US and EU stock markets, if you look up and really think about those differences and who benefits most from them…and what it’d look like (on the tape) when/if someone who understands those rules uses them against someone who doesn’t…

            there’s a reason they say the stock market isnt the economy, the stock market originally started as a way to seperate “smart” gamblers from their $.

            Bull markets, when there’s infinite liquidity, is when degenerate gamblers are running the price of everything up up up because they can, because ultimately the current spot-price is set by whoever is willing to risk the most $ at any given point.

            But the more spot-price goes up beyond actual value…the more power and room the real $, whoever has the most capital and lowest cost-basis, has to rugpull those degenerate gamblers.

            that is what market crashes are, the dukes clearing the degenerates off their table

            the master stroke with the US is how expertly establishment politicians have tied the average US workers own wealth to that casino, 401k’s? a dem super-majority under Carter and Rockefeller set that up…enabled a constant stream of bagholding liquidity pumps.

            all forms of debt (like say…insanely expensive college, guaranteed by the government)? more liquidity, and eventually somebody can just buys those and package them off as some ahitty security to be sold. doesn’t matter if they ever actually collect…

            Uncle Sam paying farmers to grow specific amounts of specific crops, then just…destroying them? that insures the farmers are reliant on them, enables the banks give them loans, and lets insiders control the Futures market to make a killing. then when it’s time to rug the farmers to steal their land (cause they can’t pay their loans) and sell it off to corporate interests…just switch the party-in-power and manufacture an economic crisis that cuts those subsidies (long history of doing that, all the way back to the great depression)

            and when the whole house of cards crashes down? just have the government step and add it to sovereign debt crisis, there’s no plan to pay that off anyway afterall…the idea is inflate it away, and what does inflation (read liquidity…) feed into…the stock market, make those lines start going up again to reel in a new generation of suckers

            it’s a big fucking club, and your not in it

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    This reminds me of the famous post about estranged parents the missing missing reasons edit: fixed link

    In it, the author writes about how like one of the estranged parents will be like “My child yelled at me and said all these horrible things for 20 minutes. I’ve never heard such cruelty!” But when pressed for exactly what the child was upset about, no reasons are provided.

    So here Adams is saying these 'gen z" people are nasty and presumably have demands, but spends no time on what their demands are, on if they’re reasonable. They’re just nasty and wrong and to be dismissed.

    Maybe there are reasons people are upset at the country right now. Could be the fascism, the corruption, the economic chaos, the climate crisis being ignored, the anti-vaxxers in power, the economic inequality…

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    I’m not gen Z but I hate “our country” meaning the Nazis that are currently in charge. America is currently a fascist state, GOP are Nazis/fascist scum

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      I hate “our country” for lack of job security, vacation, paternity leave, HEALTHCARE. And now there’s the fascist on top of that… Fuck this place is a shit hole

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    Nothing radicalizes you more than perpetual poverty, struggle, suffering and hopelessness. If the world wasn’t a system of tortures built by selfish billionaires, maybe we GenZ wouldn’t be so radicalized.

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    I’m Gen Z, and Mamdani is the better candidate. I don’t live in NYC.

    In typical Democratic fashion, the Democrats blame the voters for not “Voting Blue No Matter Who™” rather that adopting progressive, popular policies.

    Vote these skeletons out

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      You should tell this too maga first because maga is making sure to make not voting for Democrats as painful as possible. I fucking hate both parties but even I realize now is not the time to give the country over to the maga shitlords. The only way we are going to get them out is if they also agree to not vote for those dirtbags.

      This is the reverse prisoners dilemma they put the nation in, they do this intentionally so that we can’t vote third party and actually pass any legislation that benefits the working class or liberty or anything like that.