Media is reporting on this all of a sudden and I’m a bit out of the loop. What’s happening?

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    I am honestly amazed that nobody seems to care about this at all, considering how big the stakes are and the populations at risk. South Asia is really the worlds blind spot for news. Even as someone who does take an interest in the region, I see hardly any coverage.

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      Conflict between non white people somewhere far away with no real left wing threat means no interest from western media

      See: Sudan, Congo, etc

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        Normally I would agree and chalk it up to that, but these are two nuclear armed powers with over a billion lives at stake, yet still, not a peep of interest. The “threat” of Iran possessing a nuclear weapon is constantly fearmongered in the media, yet a conflict where over 300 warheads could be involved seems to go uncovered, the inconsistency is so strange.

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          You’d think it’d be important to them but nope. That’s why I can only think of the above conclusion. Like, India has an actual fascist government and some proto apartheids system but you never heard anything about it. If China actually did half the stuff India did you’d never heard the end of it.

          Iran poses a threat to the western hegemony and needs to be treated badly. Pakistan and India apparently do not pose such a threat so let them nuke eachother I guess?

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              What do you mean by that? India’s government is very fascistic. Modi is a member of a hindu-supremacist group.

              Do you know about a pogrom in 2002 that massacred over 1,000 muslims in Gujarat? Modi led the state of Gujarat at the time, and he encouraged the pogrom, the glorification of nazism in state textbooks.

              What else do I need to say?

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                Do you know about a pogrom in 2002 that massacred over 1,000 muslims in Gujarat?

                He was the chief minister at the time, and yes, Modi is a fascist. But literally every western nation has worse crimes committed.

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          Iran is treated that way because they’re openly opposed and work counter to US interests, giving support to both Hamas and Russia, for example. Neither Pakistan nor India are so reliably anti-West, so even if they could plunge the world into a nuclear winter, there’s little propaganda motive.

          Basically, what the bourgeois media report on isn’t what’s important for people to know, but what’s important for the bourgeoisie to make known (or, well, make believed).

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    I’ve always felt that India-Pakistan is the most likely scenario for a nuclear exchange. The prospect of a hot war between them should be terrifying to every one. Not only because of the unimaginable devastation that present day nuclear weapons could inflict on their vast population centers, but also because of how much sweatier the fingers on the red buttons all across the world would become as a result.

    The fact that the west is playing both sides is especially horrifying.

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    There was a terrorist attack in Kashmir and India is saying the Pakistani government/army was involved or let it happen and now India is threatening to dam off an essential source of water to Pakistan. I doubt it’ll go to full on war because they both have nukes but who knows anymore.

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    Seems that is a likely scenario at this point. The timing is very notable here given US trade war with China, and the fact that Pakistan is an important part of BRI.

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        BRI refers to the Belt and Road Initiative, not BRICS. Pakistan is important to the BRI due to ports such as Gwadar being means of accessing the Indian Ocean and the Strait of Hormuz for China without passing through the Strait of Malacca.

        • Oh, you’re right. My bad. I thought they were referring to BRICS, isn’t the first time that happened to me. I feel like Belt and Road should be called BR or B&R or something, I always get confused.

          Pakistan being an important member of Belt and Road while India is a founding member of BRICS and all of this happening right now as Trump is trying to fuck with China while having hands in Pakistan just really makes me even more a believer in this being some false flag. If we don’t die in nuclear hellfire then we’ll find out in 50 years, I guess.

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    Relations are definitely bad at the moment. But they’re always bad and they usually find a way to not end up in a war.

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    They have always been at war - hot or cold. If it becomes nuclear because of the stakes involved for the surrounding countries due to fallout risk (depending on potential target sites) there may be attempts intervention from them (ie China, through diplomatic channels, not further war).

    Right now it will be a further license for war crimes and minority persecution (especially India not withstanding that Pakistan’s military is pretty much an extension of US foreign policy). Any further significant austerity measurements by the central Indian government to feed its own military-indsutry-complex for this will likely lead to further instablity and domestic population protest/strikes. In Pakistan, it will galvanise the return of Imran Khan (good thing) if the current Pakistani government is not careful.

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    Does anyone have any information sources to at least get the background and the driving motive of this? It’s a damn shame I’m so badly informed on the region and its history

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      Current tensions came after an attack on an Indian Mountain Resort on april 22nd in Kashmir. India blames Pakistan for the attack but Pakistan denies it and goes as far as calling it a false flag.

      Sanctions were implemented from both sides since, furthering tensions of course.

      Pakistan says it considers India to retaliate somewhere soon and some media takes that as far as preparing for a war.