At 18 seconds into this speech Trumps Pinky disappears under his hand and his ring finger ‘becomes’ his pinky. This is clearly AI.

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      That looks much more like a cut. There is a technique blended cuts that interpolates between two similar shots to disguise the cut. That seems to be a much more likely explanation than AI hands, because it only happens for that one moment. And not before and after. His posture also shifts significantly at the same time.

      There are many techniques to create and manipulate images and videos. It’s not always AI. Those don’t look like AI hands.

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        It doesn’t have to be that hard even. Just a simple cross dissolve, the most basic video editing tool will accomplish what you see.

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      On the second one, my phone allows me to scrub the timeline and you can see his whole right arm is spliced from two separate moments in time. The folds on the sleeve magically shift, so it’s clear he moved and this has been edited.

      I don’t think the full clip is AI. But this is a lot of extra effort to edit a trivial scene for someone whose job it is to talk all day. Why go to all the length? Would anyone care if they just had a cut in there? Would that be so suspicious otherwise?

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        Yep

        • Can be explained with normal editing
        • Occam’s razor
        • OP appears to be a sensationalist person posting an ABC video with a self made title pushing their own opinion

        I really wish these people had stayed on Reddit, they are destroying the platform. Not to mention the mindless upvotes, because “Trump” + “AI” = upvote.

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          Occam’s razor

          So in your opinion, the simplest explanation is that they went out of their way to try and disguise a cut for -some reason- rather than they just used deepfake tech? Ok, well that’s fine that is your opinion, but to jump from “I came to a different conclusion than you” to “OMG OP is a Sensationalist pushing an Agenda and they are literally DESTROYING LEMMY!” is quite the stretch my guy. You seem to have a more sensationalist take than me from my pov.

          Not to mention the mindless upvotes, because “Trump” + “AI” = upvote.

          Why are you so hung up on upvotes? Can you buy anything with them? Maybe people aren’t ‘mindlessly’ up-voting things- maybe they see the same things I do. You ever think of that? It seems like you just think everything that doesn’t agree with you is wrong and bad.

          If you have some proof of what you are saying I am perfectly open to hearing it and I will edit my post- until then its just so much wind.

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            I’ve outlined everything in the other thread. You’re not going to change your mind, I’ve had hundreds of conversations with people like you before. You can’t be convinced or admit you’re wrong. But maybe (I hoped) you could be persuaded to change your post title.

            The upvotes are what people see. It give this exposure and spreads wrong information. Factually proven wrong information. If you want a discussion that’s fine. That’s what Lemmy is for. What you’re doing is disingenuous by posting a post title with 100% certainty and a link to an ABC video making it sound like a news organisation said this.

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              You’re not going to change your mind, I’ve had hundreds of conversations with people like you before. You can’t be convinced or admit you’re wrong. But maybe (I hoped) you could be persuaded to change your post title.

              I definitely could be persuaded to change my mind- but I’m certainly not going to do it just because some rando with an agenda who claims to be an expert and tells me that it’s so with no proof.

              Factually proven wrong information.

              You haven’t factually proven anything, and that is a fact.

              a link to an ABC video making it sound like a news organisation said this.

              What kind of moron would conclude that because of my post title, the video which has a completely different title and makes no such claim agrees with me? That makes zero sense.

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      The explanation of why this post should be taken down, or the title changed to “… is probably not AI” is in my comment below that’s getting downvoted by the echo chamber.

      I get that everyone wants to prove to others and themselves that they know how to spot an AI fake, and I get that he regularly uses over the top AI for trolling purposes (mostly to distract from the [email protected], but it doesn’t help Lemmy if we’re going to start just calling things fake that aren’t. That’s what Reddit is for.