• jsomae@lemmy.ml
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    1 day ago

    Earnest question – sorry if this is offensive or something everyone already knows – but shouldn’t you treat transwomen and ciswomen the same?

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      24 hours ago

      Yes. If I know or suspect that certain words can potentially hurt a cis-woman I know due to her unique history, I won’t use it around her, either.

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      21 hours ago

      I mean, mostly, yeah. The issue is, while most people will say dude is gender neutral, it really depends on the person.

      I’m trans, I have two friends who call friends dude. One is a woman who I have known for like 5 years and will call everyone and everything dude. When she says it I don’t feel weird about it.

      I have another friend who says dude is gender neutral and I’ve known them for about the same amount of time. However, I have never heard them call a woman dude. They say they do, but I our mostly female friend group, I think I’ve only ever heard it towards me.

      That’s really the issue. People will say it’s gender neutral but not use it neutrally, and believe me, trans people notice it. Anecdotally, this is how my trans friends view it as well, but take my experience with a grain of salt.

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      You are not wrong. But trans folks can be a lot more sensitive around language use sometimes. Misgendering ranges anywhere from annoying to hurtful to being an actual verbal attack. So their skin is often less thick for gendered language.

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        1 day ago

        is using gender-neutral masculine terms like “guys” misgendering?

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          24 hours ago

          As a general rule, don’t use language someone asks you not to use.

          Even better, rather than thinking about specific actions, just try to treat everyone with genuine respect. If you commit a faux pas, learn from it, chuckle at yourself, and move on. 😊

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      23 hours ago

      Yes but this is more like not telling 911 survivors plane jokes or rape survivors rape jokes