I’m not American but there’s so many socialists on here refusing to vote for the lesser evil because they don’t offer the right candidates and advocating revolution.
why not take a page from the right’s clearly successful playbook and vote more in local politics and primaries. Maga managed to turn the republicans into exactly what they wanted this way, but the American left just sits there waiting for someone to start a revolution.
well I understand it might be late now and elections might not do much going forward, but jesus it’s like the only option you guys saw is voting for whoever the parties put toward or revolution.
The Democrats suck but there’s a huge difference between voting for boring corporatists and 100% concentrated evil. Don’t make me tap the chart.
Sounds a lot like the “both sides are the same” argument with more steps. If people voted left wing then the politicians would go left wing.
Republicans aren’t 100% gun ho about trumps recent (and easily foreseen) fuck ups.
If we replace First-past-the-post voting, we could easily see the republican party get replaced with a more reasonable conservative party like the democrats.
Plus, you know, screaming at people unrepresented in government to vote for your preferred political party isn’t actually democracy.
If Alaska can do it, so can your state!
Electoral Reform Videos
First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)
Videos on alternative electoral systems
Alaska is an interesting place, politically. Last I knew, the major parties there were Libertarian Republicans and the Green Party. I’m not surprised they have a different voting system.
Prob because they were once Russian territory, they have Russian pluralism. Or maybe not.
That’s insightful. Never thought about that.
Before you reply to me directly please understand:
- The US overthrew democracy in the country I am from
- The US installed a fascist king with secret police that terrorized my family
- Once kicked out the US supported a dictator in the neighboring country where the other half of my family lived
- The US funded both sides of a war between my country and the neighboring one that led to mass civilian deaths, one side directly by giving a dictator weapons and cash and the other side clandestinely thru laundering money by selling drugs in Latin America
- Once they lost that war turned on the dictator in the neighboring country and invented reasons to illegally invade. Twice
- Toppled the regime and left a power vacuum that consumed all my family that lived there for literally hundreds of years.
- Created material conditions in the country my family is from that forced them to leave or die
You Americans are not the good guys, your country and government is evil to its core.
My best guess is that you are from Iran? If memory serves, this got kicked off via the Anglo-Persian oil company, 51% owned by the Brits. (They go by BP now.) The company was a private entity that was treating the Iranian workforce poorly in terms of qualify of life and profit sharing with workers. The ruler in Iran was tired of their country and land being used to generate profits for foreign entities. The profit sharing with the company was renegotiated in the somewhere in the 1930s. (my memory is a bit spotty on the exact date.) In Narrator voice: The company did not abide by that agreement. During world war 2, the allied forces basically occupied Iran to secure the oil fields to keep supply chains intact during the war; so this would have been happening in the 1940s. This created a push for nationalizing the company and supply of oil, leading up to the 1950s and in 1951 is when Iran nationalized it under prime minister Mossadegh. There was lots of back and forth between the Brits and Iran, and threats of going to international court. The Shah was a bit more friendly to how business was being done between Iran and the Birts. This led to an attempt by the Shah to replace Mossadegh in 1952, and led to riots against the Shah and perceived foreign intervention. This failed. Mossadegh was pissed and eventually Mossadegh expelled the British embassy in October 1952. The brits cried to the USA, which led to the CIA to depose Mossadegh via the Shah, using underhanded bribery and corruption type shenanigans. This led to another 2 decades of Iran getting fucked by the brits and the USA, which eventually was a factor in the hostage crisis in 1979. Yeah, America was pissed about that. I was born in 1979 and have very early memories of Reagan saying shit like we won’t negotiate with terrorists. When Iraq went to war with Iran, the US was on the books as supporting Iraq. There was an embargo preventing the US from selling weapons to Iran. That didn’t stop the USA. They funneled weapons and training to contras in Nicaragua who would then supply Iran, simply because the USA didn’t want Iran to be influenced by the Russia and communism. This is not taught in American public schools at all. American history curriculum usually ends with the civil rights movement. This was all stuff I had to learn on my own after hearing about it first hand from my best friend who lived through the Iraq/Iran war in the 80s. Yes, we are the baddies.
I would try to guess your country but there are too many that the US has done this to
My guess is iran
OP said it was in Latin America tho
They did? Note also thought it was going to be a a south American country but none of it fit
No, the CIA was selling drugs in latin america…
Iraq was invaded twice
Literally hundreds of years?
Good post but that line confused me
There are records of my family in Iraq since the 1300s. The Iranian half lived in Abadan for over a thousand years continually.
Oh oh! I see, Not that America made a power vacuum hundreds of years ago but how long your family was there! Sorry I misunderstood
This has to be the most brain dead community on Lemmy, still pulling this “Both sides” bullshit
I don’t know on which community we currently are, but this is the most accurate depiction of what’s actually going on. Democrats serve the corporate elite and don’t really bother turning it left.
Stop with this braindead serve the elites meme. Dems last admin passed tons of left wing legislation that benefited everyone.
All those left wing policies being implemented like:
Is significantly reducing the cost of life saving medicine and giving families $300 a month per kid not left wing policy?
You’re either incredibly uninformed or purposely undermining the left I can’t tell which.
The extra $300 per month would be a better argument if they tried to keep it going instead of letting it lapse…
Its ending under trump. The 1 year of significantly boosted CTC was government assistance given to people. The right wing version of that would have been tax cuts for business. Could he have passed legislation that kept ctc at that amount, probably not and it would likely be repealed by Trump. Just because something could be better doesn’t mean it isn’t good. If you use “it could be better” as an justification for something being bad then people can say the same thing about things you mention. Oh yeah he passed boosted CTC forever well he should have increased it more, he should have given to to all families, he should just give that money to everyone. Lets be realistic instead of delusional so things in the real world can actually get better.
It ended under Biden along with most of the benefit increases we got because of covid. It was bad enough to have a massive spike in child poverty after decreasing.
Lets be realistic instead of delusional so things in the real world can actually get better.
Except that’s not at all the case
Oh look, yet another post where traitors and cowards try to convince people not to vote
Demand politicians worth your vote
Glad I’m expendable in the meantime
America deserves fascism until I get my unicorn!
The US Empire should be dismantled. If the so called “traitors,” ie third party voters, have the power to do so, then we will be doing our duty to the world.
and replaced with an authorian comunist one run by china and NK /s
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