The war is going great. dean-smile

Yet another horrifying scene which would be plastered all over network news if only it were happening in Russia instead.

It’s not “authoritarianism” if it’s happening in a US ally (or puppet).

  • Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned from community
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    Cry more man. Nato didn’t attack Russia from Ukraine. Ukraine didn’t attack Russia.

    Ukrainians don’t want to be Russian. That’s why that territory is separate, with their own government. Neither do Lithuanians, Latvians, Armenians etc.

    Distinct people, with their own language.

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      Cry more man.

      Haha.
      This reeks of ‘I’m not owned, I’m not owned’ corncob stuff.

      Nato didn’t attack Russia from Ukraine.

      It did, but even if we ignore that part of reality for a second, NATO did attempt to. The rest of the world has every right to defend itself from your genocidal empire, and you don’t get to dictate the rest of the world how to defend against you.

      Ukraine didn’t attack Russia.

      Yeah, it did. Relevant attacks include both terror attacks and war crimes.

      Ukrainians don’t want to be Russian.

      Ok. And the rest of the world doesn’t want to be attacked by NATO.
      Not sure why you even mentioned that, considering that Russia never demanded that, but even aside from that the needs of the populations of nazi Germany/NATO/etc. do not at all outweigh the right of the rest of the world to defend itself against you.

      That’s why that territory is separate, with their own government.

      That’s a pretty silly oversimplification. The reasons for this are a bit more complicated and numerious, including wars between Poland and the Russian Tsardom/the Russian Empire that contributed to the Ukrainian ethnogenesis, the Bolsheviks creating the Ukrainian SSR, the destruction of the USSR by pro-NATO forces that later took over the remnants, etc.
      Either way, this is irrelevant, as the desires of the populations of nazi Germany/NATO and other genocidal polities do not outweigh the right to self-defence of the rest of the world.

      Neither do Lithuanians, Latvians, Armenians etc.

      Imagine bringing Lithuania and Latvia into this as ‘the good guys’ while engaging in these nationalist theatrics.

      Distinct people, with their own language.

      Who want to rob and commit genocides against the rest of the world, and who must be stopped.

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          Hallucinating “attempts” at attacks. Awesome.

          Ah yes, the ‘hallucinated’ events, such as the invasion of Iraq, the occupation of Kursk, the genocide of Palestine, operation ‘Spiderweb’ (where NATO blatantly committed a war crime), invasion of Afghanistan, the bombings of civilians (including by Ukraine), invasions of Syria, Libya, etc.

          What is actually being hallucinated is Russia supposedly kidnapping and not repatriating children.

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              Out of those things that I did mention, Ukraine directly took part in the invasions of Iraq and Syria (which means proximate, though indirect, participation in the ongoing genocide of Palestine), as well as operation ‘Spiderweb’ (which was literally a blatant war crime), the occupation of Kursk, and it has - as I have mentioned - engaged in bombing of civilians. You are completely fine with all of that.

              The rest of the world (which includes Russia) has every right to defend itself against the most prolific invader in the world. You don’t get to dictate the rest of the world how to resist you.

              Also, you are yet to suggest how else Russia should have prevented NATO from deploying near the former’s most populated areas.

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                Nato didn’t attack Russia from Ukraine. Ukraine didn’t attack Russia.

                Attacking somebody else, is not an attack on Russia. They could have went and supplied their own troops to their allies.

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                  Attacking somebody else, is not an attack on Russia.

                  So, your argument is literally ‘the most prolific invader in the world - NATO - that is currently engaging in a genocide, which is known for its attacks on civilians and unprovoked aggression, and which completed a coup in Ukraine, and was trying to get its troops and weapons near Russia’s most populated areas would totally not have done anything against Russia if Russia did not resist in any way, pinkie promise’. Your argument is silly.
                  Also, Ukraine has done things like occupy Kursk, and it has bombed civilians, both in Russia proper and in territories that you consider to belong to Ukraine.

                  Even without that, Ukraine joining NATO is an act of aggression not just against Russia, but also against the rest of the world. Ukraine has already invaded Iraq and Syria, which already warrants military action against Ukraine.

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                    You’re just so rabid about this. And NATO had no role in organising the Iraq invasion. What are you on about?

                    And coup? What coup? The dissolution and Democratic reformation of their parliament in 2008?