The war is going great. 
Yet another horrifying scene which would be plastered all over network news if only it were happening in Russia instead.
It’s not “authoritarianism” if it’s happening in a US ally (or puppet).
The war is going great.
Yet another horrifying scene which would be plastered all over network news if only it were happening in Russia instead.
It’s not “authoritarianism” if it’s happening in a US ally (or puppet).
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The Soviets didn’t need to pressgang anyone because the nazis were slaughtering entire villages down to even babies. People were drafted, but they didn’t resist because it was a calling to defend their families from a genocidal entity.
Prisoners were offered pardons in exchange for service and they formed penal battalions. Military police were placed behind them to make sure they didn’t mutiny or desert. That’s about the closest you’ll find to what the Ukrainians are doing now.
I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention the penal units were thrown back in prison after the war ended, something I think most communists would agree was wrong of Stalin to do. It led to the сучья Wars and later establishment of multiple organized crime groups. These crime groups would later contribute to the breakup of the USSR as they were easily recruited assets for the CIA and they had the cash to buy up everything after the collapse. Putin himself was in charge of the anti-organized crime division of the KGB, a position he used for personal gain.
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What even are you on about? The US, Britain, and every other member of the Allies drafted people and did so without pressgangs. Current day Russia isn’t the Soviet Union (as evidenced by them invading another former member of the USSR) so I’m not sure what the Soviets’ actions during WWII proves.
Press ganged for the sake of NATO expansion and corrupt Nazi oligarchs in Kiev
VS
Conscripted to hold back the tide of Nazi exterminationists that had already killed tens of millions
Hmmm, damn this is hard, I can’t see the difference
The war? Which war? what are you even talking about, what’s your point
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It is still unclear what you’re referring to. So are you talking about the first or second war in which the USSR was faced with an existential threat and extermination?
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Let me say this politely, dude.
This wasn’t even a disagreement on some finer point of historiography. You literally didn’t even know there have been multiple invasions of the USSR. If you are an American, I can excuse the poor education.
Know where you are at. You are ignorant of history. Evidently you realise this and are cowed. But if you have no time for me, have some time for yourself, and examine your ignorance of basic historical facts.
Nor any time to say shit that makes sense, apparently
You clearly do have a lot of time for them, dude, considering that you aren’t spending it on learning anything about what you decide to speak confidently about.
Except for when the European powers, including Poland invaded Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus around 1920, as a result of which Poland occupied parts of Ukraine and Belarus.
Surely you did not forget about that. Surely. /s
Also, what other wars do you think the USSR (and the RSFSR) participated in, and in what capacity?
I was just talking about the one that we remembered the most as kids, and the movies and stories we heard about them in russia.
Notably, you forgot both the other times where the USSR (and the RSFSR) were attacked, and insinuated that the USSR was an aggressor in any sort of serious manner in any wars.
You mean in World War II?
I’m not sure (doubtful). However, WWII was a legitimate war of extermination in which the Nazis starved a million Russian civilians in Leningrad alone.
Ukrainian nationalists want to retain the Donbass so they can continue to ethnically cleanse the Russian Ukrainians who live there (and want to be a part of Russia).
They are not the same.
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Watch (at least) the first 15 minutes if you don’t believe me.
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Are you a fucking chatbot? Lib outlets like VICE and Vox were openly talking about the nazification of Ukraine for years before the war
You didn’t watch it. 😕
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If you are being honest, thank you.
I don’t dispute that Russia has Nazis (although not as many), but they are not at the center of the conflict in the way that Ukraine’s fascists, who started the conflict in 2014, are. Ukraine’s Nazis tried to eliminated the Russian language—the first language for the majority of people in the Donbass—from all public life, and they traveled to the east of the country to carry out pogroms. Zelenskyy ran on a campaign of peace, but he was unable to rein them in because they are CIA-backed.
Which Russian politicians are you referring to? Just curious. I like to stay informed.
Nazism is criminalized in the Russian military de jure
Not only is Nazism celebrated in the Ukrainian military, it’s celebrated by the entirety of the Ukrainian state in general
Russia is a country with an underground neo-nazi problem, Ukraine IS A NAZI STATE, get the difference shitlib
That still doesn’t make this a war of extermination. Explain to me why the second Largest population of Ukrainians outside of Ukraine isn’t being driven out of their homes and attacked like Palestianians in the West Bank?
My point is that this war is not about nazis, it’s just framed as such
Not about nazis, just gotta shove Azov battalion out of the way, tuck this ukrainian iron cross over there, some nordic runes, some swastikas… A lot of clean-up for the slava ukraini crowd to do, huh?
I’m sure it’s just a coincidence that Azov was elevated from a battalion to a regiment to a brigade, and now a corps, one of only two corps in the Ukraine national guard
Just a coincidence, much like the sonnenrads, totenkopfs, wolfsangels and other insignia that Ukrainian soldiers seem to love showing off on their uniforms and tattoos
Many such cases of Ukrainian units naming themselves after Waffen SS just a coincidence though, much like the youth camps where the kids play Hugo Boss dressup for graduation, much like the swastikas the western forces spray painted on houses in the Donbas
Meanwhile how’s Prigozhin doing these days? So many examples from the West Ukraine side, meanwhile it’s seemingly always vague references to rampant Nazism in Russia but I’ll wait for more concrete examples
Also somehow the war can’t be “about” Nazism while also pertaining to gas transshipment deals, like it can’t be multiple causes pertaining to different sections and strata of Russian society, or as though intervening on behalf of ethnic Russians is somehow a fake humanitarian intervention cover story and not, you know, entirely consistent with Russian nationalism
Meanwhile there are so many examples of Nazi-fascism on the western Ukrainian side that they just roll right off the tongue, just a coincidence though, both sides just as bad
Oh fuck off. Did you watch the video? Did you witness the distress of this young human that was taken against their will? Does it make you feel anything at all, or why the fuck do you bring up soviet russia (which is an unserious argument btw.) Wtf would it matter if it did happen in soviet russia? Would it make this ok?