The war is going great. dean-smile

Yet another horrifying scene which would be plastered all over network news if only it were happening in Russia instead.

It’s not “authoritarianism” if it’s happening in a US ally (or puppet).

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    You mean in World War II?

    I’m not sure (doubtful). However, WWII was a legitimate war of extermination in which the Nazis starved a million Russian civilians in Leningrad alone.

    Ukrainian nationalists want to retain the Donbass so they can continue to ethnically cleanse the Russian Ukrainians who live there (and want to be a part of Russia).

    They are not the same.

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            I don’t dispute that Russia has Nazis (although not as many), but they are not at the center of the conflict in the way that Ukraine’s fascists, who started the conflict in 2014, are. Ukraine’s Nazis tried to eliminated the Russian language—the first language for the majority of people in the Donbass—from all public life, and they traveled to the east of the country to carry out pogroms. Zelenskyy ran on a campaign of peace, but he was unable to rein them in because they are CIA-backed.

            Which Russian politicians are you referring to? Just curious. I like to stay informed.

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            Nazism is criminalized in the Russian military de jure

            Not only is Nazism celebrated in the Ukrainian military, it’s celebrated by the entirety of the Ukrainian state in general

            Russia is a country with an underground neo-nazi problem, Ukraine IS A NAZI STATE, get the difference shitlib

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            That still doesn’t make this a war of extermination. Explain to me why the second Largest population of Ukrainians outside of Ukraine isn’t being driven out of their homes and attacked like Palestianians in the West Bank?

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              Not about nazis, just gotta shove Azov battalion out of the way, tuck this ukrainian iron cross over there, some nordic runes, some swastikas… A lot of clean-up for the slava ukraini crowd to do, huh?

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                I’m sure it’s just a coincidence that Azov was elevated from a battalion to a regiment to a brigade, and now a corps, one of only two corps in the Ukraine national guard

                Just a coincidence, much like the sonnenrads, totenkopfs, wolfsangels and other insignia that Ukrainian soldiers seem to love showing off on their uniforms and tattoos

                Many such cases of Ukrainian units naming themselves after Waffen SS just a coincidence though, much like the youth camps where the kids play Hugo Boss dressup for graduation, much like the swastikas the western forces spray painted on houses in the Donbas

                Meanwhile how’s Prigozhin doing these days? So many examples from the West Ukraine side, meanwhile it’s seemingly always vague references to rampant Nazism in Russia but I’ll wait for more concrete examples

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                  Also somehow the war can’t be “about” Nazism while also pertaining to gas transshipment deals, like it can’t be multiple causes pertaining to different sections and strata of Russian society, or as though intervening on behalf of ethnic Russians is somehow a fake humanitarian intervention cover story and not, you know, entirely consistent with Russian nationalism

                  Meanwhile there are so many examples of Nazi-fascism on the western Ukrainian side that they just roll right off the tongue, just a coincidence though, both sides just as bad