“Would have loved”… “Expanded their border area”… That sounds so innocent. Inappropriate words for what that regime represented and what they did with the countries they colonized. The terror, genocides, poverty, famine and the sheer gray hopelessness of life for generations. It’s surreal reading people who praise them because they were “not as bad as Nazis”. Firstly - disputable claim. But even if you grant that (which many survivors of WWII would be reluctant to do)… that’s as low a bar as you can set.
I understand that this is mostly posted/read by young Americans, rather privileged and removed from the subject matter. I’m hoping you can reconsider your positions - probably not now, but maybe some time in the future. Try to see this from the perspective of all those “buffer countries” full of non-people born into “zones of influence” where it’s ok to “expand your border area”. It’s extremely soulless.
But at least this Lemmy instance hasn’t banned me (so far) for hating communism :)
What genocides? There’s the Holodomor, but historians don’t agree that was a purposeful targeted famine, so much as failed policy and bad luck. That’s like saying the Great Dust Bowl was a famine against the Midwest. They were a new society trying a new form of government and production for the first time after multiple wars. Famine happened all the time during the tsar’s rule, and stopped happening after the World Wars, when the USSR figured it out. Even the CIA at a certain point said that they ate as much in the USSR as they did in the US, just healthier lol.
And sheer grey hopelessness of life? From the society that went to space first, that revitalized numerous liberation movements around the world like Cuba and Vietnam, that helped women gain equality in the fields of science and technology? They weren’t perfect and did plenty of things wrong but weren’t anything close to the Nazis like you seem to be implying.
In fact, most people would have preferred the USSR didn’t dissolve in the countries it was in. And speaking of poverty, the dissolution of the USSR was way worse for those countries.
I understand that this is mostly posted/read by young Americans, rather privileged and removed from the subject matter.
Guess what, I can still find Poles like @[email protected] and @[email protected] who aren’t anticommunist at all. You want a fucking medal or something? You aren’t anything special.
“Would have loved”… “Expanded their border area”… That sounds so innocent. Inappropriate words for what that regime represented and what they did with the countries they colonized. The terror, genocides, poverty, famine and the sheer gray hopelessness of life for generations. It’s surreal reading people who praise them because they were “not as bad as Nazis”. Firstly - disputable claim. But even if you grant that (which many survivors of WWII would be reluctant to do)… that’s as low a bar as you can set.
I understand that this is mostly posted/read by young Americans, rather privileged and removed from the subject matter. I’m hoping you can reconsider your positions - probably not now, but maybe some time in the future. Try to see this from the perspective of all those “buffer countries” full of non-people born into “zones of influence” where it’s ok to “expand your border area”. It’s extremely soulless.
But at least this Lemmy instance hasn’t banned me (so far) for hating communism :)
What genocides? There’s the Holodomor, but historians don’t agree that was a purposeful targeted famine, so much as failed policy and bad luck. That’s like saying the Great Dust Bowl was a famine against the Midwest. They were a new society trying a new form of government and production for the first time after multiple wars. Famine happened all the time during the tsar’s rule, and stopped happening after the World Wars, when the USSR figured it out. Even the CIA at a certain point said that they ate as much in the USSR as they did in the US, just healthier lol.
And sheer grey hopelessness of life? From the society that went to space first, that revitalized numerous liberation movements around the world like Cuba and Vietnam, that helped women gain equality in the fields of science and technology? They weren’t perfect and did plenty of things wrong but weren’t anything close to the Nazis like you seem to be implying.
In fact, most people would have preferred the USSR didn’t dissolve in the countries it was in. And speaking of poverty, the dissolution of the USSR was way worse for those countries.
I don’t see how a Union that prevented another Polish famine and helped reconstruct Poland was worse than an anticommunist empire that exterminated at least 1.8 million Poles in a settler-colonial project and would have annihilated millions more had the Axis won, but then again, I have nothing against Poles either. Sorry that you have no respect for your own people, I guess.
Guess what, I can still find Poles like @[email protected] and @[email protected] who aren’t anticommunist at all. You want a fucking medal or something? You aren’t anything special.
You get really hung up on borders. Let me ask you something: when did Poland become an independent nation?