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      I’m so glad I couldn’t afford one when I wanted one and eventually ended up with a generic ZigBee thermostat

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    We desperately need laws for stuff like this.

    Why not force companies open source the server code when they kill an online only service?

    This will affect IoT, cars, video games, toys and a whole bunch of other devices in the future.

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      They dont even need to open source it

      Just make a binary availible

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    Yay. Can’t wait for my car systems to go obsolete because of some arbitrary manufacturer standard.

    Edit: it should be a rule that when manufacturers stop supporting something they should also publish the design documents. Better yet, open source it so some enterprising person can take over the reins.

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    Nest released the original Learning Thermostat to almost universal praise in 2011, with the sequel arriving a year later. Google’s second-gen Euro unit launched in 2014. Since launch, all these devices have been getting regular software updates and have migrated across multiple app redesigns. However, all good things must come to an end.

    As Google points out, these products have had a long life

    14 years for a thermostat that still works? What has really changed in that time that the servers can’t support sending commands to them anymore. Seems like this is just part of the switch to Gemini and planned obsolescence to get people to buy new devices with terrible Gemini features that will stop working in 5 years, and result in more e-waste.

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      What has really changed in that time that the servers can’t support sending commands to them anymore.

      The discovery of the higgs boson changed everything we thought we knew about the notion of room temperature. It’s just not the same world those old thermostats were designed to operate in.

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      More likely than not they can’t upgrade the crypto to be able to talk to the backend or there’s a CVE they haven’t announced yet.

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    I don’t really mind when a cloud-connected device gracefully falls back to an offline-only device. It seems like it retains all of the non-cloud functionality: reading and setting temps, including on a schedule.

    It’d be nicer if they gave the option to let people run their own servers for the the networked functionality, but it doesn’t seem like they’ve reduced or otherwise held back on the offline functionality one would expect from a thermostat.

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    Glad I bought an alternative when that one came out. As far as I know they never really updated it, or their lineup since. Just additional compatible radiator valves and such.

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    nests are so dumb for a smart thermostat. why does it seem like a smart thermostat is so hard for companies to make? I got a levoit one after ebaying my nest and its a ton better but still not as good as I would imagine they can be.

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    I’m done with Google.

    They ruin everything good they create, like Google Music, in the name of profits.

    Putting GrapheneOS on my phone this weekend. I already started migrating all my files to Proton.

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    In Google’s defense, my Nest outlasted two three! AC units. I’ll upgrade to a gen 4 because it’s a well made device and the people who worked on it deserve the credit

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          Thermostats in most residential settings are just a series of on/off switches. All it does is complete the 0.5v circuit from your HVAC control board that tells it which parts to activate.

          The only way for a thermostat to cause any extra wear and tear on the AC unit is if it was rapidly turning on/off. However most thermostats, including Nest, have a maintenance band of +/- a couple of degrees, to prevent that sort of rapid cycling.

          If @stranger@lemmy.world is going through AC units that fast, they likely have a more serious electrical problem in their home.

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        South Texas + Never buy the cheapest of anything you actually care about. Lesson learned! (Same unit replaced twice under warranty)