DISCLAIMER: this is not my content that was removed, I just came across it in the modlog and found it to be absurd. If it’s not allowed, I totally understand.

Reason removed was because it’s unrelated.

Unrelated……

The guy was illegally deported without due process. And yet for some reason, suggesting so is somehow “unrelated” to a meme that is trying to say that because he is affiliated (no charges were ever filed against him for gang-related activity) with a gang, he is by default, guilty.

What’s ironic, is that the entire point of the meme is that the bullshit about him being in MS-13 is unrelated to the fact that people want accountability for this administration illegally deporting a man without due process.

This mod has definitely chosen the correct name.

And even taken into consideration that the instance is essentially a troll haven for wayward 4Chan refugees, they should still have to adhere to the rules of common sense.

  • njm1314@lemmy.world
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    Yeah he’s one of ours? Is that implying that the Ecuadorian president is a member of MS-13? Also they don’t seem to understand that Ecuador in Venezuela are two different countries, although yeah that one doesn’t surprise me at all really

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      Wasn’t there also the slight issue of many not bothering to vote at all or not willing to vote for the more democratic candidate over Israel or something? So much drama in the states…

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        38% of registered voters didn’t bother to vote. I think many of them couldn’t stomach either candidate in the fake two-party system and didn’t think a third party or independent could win so they didn’t bother. If that 38% had gotten behind a candidate like Jill Stein or a write in campaign for Bernie Sanders, they could have beaten Trump and Harris.

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      Don’t give them so much credit. He won because of voter suppression laws targeting groups who typically vote democrat, and general laziness from democrats resulting in low voter turnout like usual.

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    Chuckles the clown should be put on blast everyday.

    The administration of HilariousChaos aren’t any better as they don’t have any control or want to have any control over the people in their instance.

    • Rhoeri@lemmy.worldOP
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      The entire instance is a fucking joke in name only. I was invited to make an account there around when they started by some kid named “Alice.” I noped the fuck out the minute I saw what it was:

      A shit-tier wannabe cover-band of 4Chan’s greatest hits.

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    I mean, c’mon. It’s a fucking clown shoe running the show.

    The only question is if I’m talking about the thing in the picture, or the one that took the mod action.

    The answer to that question is yes.

  • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 hours ago

    Nazi instance supporting Nazis, not a shock.

    PTB, clear and simple. Someday they will be mass defederated. I don’t think my instance gets them, but I haven’t been looking for more digital self harm by reading Nazis advocating for my kind to be removed.

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      4 hours ago

      PTB, clear and simple.

      Agreed wholeheartedly.

      Someday they will be mass defederated.

      One can dream.

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    PTB.

    Like, I get not wanting “political” content in your instance. But guess what, everything has a political side! And the comment is completely related to the topic at hand (Garcia being kicked by force from one dictatorship into another, with no proofs that he would be a mara).

    • Rhoeri@lemmy.worldOP
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      It’s in a “conservatives” community, so, politics is pretty much the wheelhouse.

      And even considering the source, one would think there would at least be some sense of maturity when it comes to moderating, but nope.

      It’s wannabe edgelord trolling, even in the moderation/admin team.

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    This is also blatant misinformation. No judge ever made a finding that he was associated with MS-13. The government asserted it in court but it’s never been proven. The immigration proceedings largely revolved around his asylum application, interview, and testimony.

    So they’re lying in an attempt to make it sensational enough to bust past due process. For an example of how that looks long term, check Duterte’s regime in the Philippines. Many people were killed extrajudicially and written off as drug dealers.

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      Pretty much, yeah. It looks like they’re going on this as “evidence”

      The Justice Department shared records, not previously made public, detailing how police officers in Maryland assessed Abrego Garcia was a member of the MS-13 gang during an arrest in 2019. He had no criminal history at the time, which the documents also state, and his attorneys have denied that he is a gang member.

      We all know a police officer’s “assessment” doesn’t mean shit, but it seems this is what they’re working from.

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    And once again they move the goalpost and there’s absolutely fuck all we’re going to be able to do about it. 2 weeks ago we were angry that people were kidnapped and sent to a deathcamp. 1,5 weeks ago we were angry that people didn’t even get a trial. 1 week ago we were angry that someone wasn’t “supposed” to be sent to the death camp. Now we’re angry that they say this man was a gangmember without evidence.

    The discussion has moved from “sending people to death camps is fucking insane”, to “it’s okay to send people to death camps, as long as they’re gang members”.

    This post is a big part of that goalpost moving.

    Don’t let them shift the narative. Yes, everything that is happening is wrong, but focusing on them lying about him being a gang member, shifts the narative to a point where it’s okay to send people to foreign death camps, as long as they’ve done something the state deems criminal (in this case, being a gang member).

    • Rhoeri@lemmy.worldOP
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      8 hours ago

      This post’s focus is simply about an asshole mod that thinks it’s funny to troll people using a moderator’s authority.

      The fact that the guy has no criminal charges or what his association is isn’t relevant to the point, other than the reason said asshole mod chose to use as a way to troll someone.

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    9 hours ago

    “He’s MS-13!” Prove it in court then. Fuck me I’m tired of Americans being 100% wrong about everything and then trying to sound adult by having lengthy ‘debates’ about it.

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      8 hours ago

      Well said… and I don’t know if I want to know what your username means, but I’m intrigued.

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    Which judge? Which jury? What’s the case so I can look it up? What crime is he charged with? When is his next court date? What was he convicted of? What was he sentenced to, and by whom?

    -Questions I’m going to keep asking

    Edit: I just read that modlog. Unrelated? Eat more boots, jackass.

  • jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    they should still have to adhere to the rules of common sense.

    how precisely are you going to make them? do you see the issue here? and this is exactly why trump won. because democrats wouldn’t do a damn thing for working class americans no matter how many we elect if the corporate owners didnt want them too.

    trump on the other hand is more than happy to and you’re all suddenly seeing how effective it is when you dgaf.

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      Based on the spectacular feat of mental gymnastics you performed in order to find a way to make all of this the democrats fault- I’m going to assume you’re not here in good faith and respond in kind:

      🫵 lol

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        didnt say he was. point is he’s completely shattering the illusion that the democrats couldn’t have done anything each time they’ve had the presidency and that they choose to shit on the working class.

        trump won because he is doing what his base wants (deporting people and being an asshole) and democrats lose because they are not doing what their base wants and just give excuses each time.

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          bUt the dEmOcRaTs gUyS!!

          This has NOTHING at all to do with the democrats and everything to do with some stupid agenda you have to rub the stink of “bOtH SiDeS” bullshit all over everything you can find.

          The post is about a shit-tier tool of a mod. Not the democrats. The subject of the shit-tier mod’s action is a post that has everything to do with the current administration’s decision to forcefully kidnap a man with no evidence to support their accusation, and illegally deport him without due process.

          How about you stop with this bullshit and read the fucking room for a change.

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    his tattoos are of dice and Sigmund Freud by the way, notably not of MS-13, a group to what he has no established connection.

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      I think I read that he does have affiliation, but has never committed any crimes associated with them. Either way, he received no proper procedure, due process or trial before being found guilty as a result of suspicion and prosecuted.

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          Here is the best I can find as all sources I can see pretty much say the same on the subject. It’s not concrete, it’s the closest thing I can find that warrants any real possibility.

          However, it should be noted that affiliation doesn’t mean jack shit if he never committed any crimes.

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            thanks for the link, I’ve read his report.

            there is zero documented evidence even of gang affiliation, according to that FBI report.

            that is very important to note.

            clean record, no documented gang affiliation, wearing a hoodie, one CI allegedly said he has a nickname with no corroborating evidence.

            his gang affiliation would mean something if he had a gang affiliation, which he does not.

            it’s only harmful to bring up an alleged affiliation when one does not exist.

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              That’s what I’m saying. I’m speaking from the perspective of those accusing. They are working from that info- which is irrelevant as it doesn’t really say anything other than he was accused.

              I’ve been able to find nothing that states evidence has been provided.

              And it should be pointed out that even if he did have MS-13 connections, he still is deserved due process and a trial- so their argument is further invalidated.

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                I don’t think anybody’s arguing about the necesiity of due process here, what with it being the point of the post. not from the comments I read, anyway.

                It’s irresponsible of you to say “i think i read that he does have affiliation” when there is no documented evidence.

                there’s a big difference between a proven gang member and a random person wearing a hoodie, and your statement blurs those lines.

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                  I mis-spoke where I intended to say I read they’re saying he has affiliation. (My ADHD infused brain moves so much faster than I can type)

                  I totally get where yore coming from and agree wholeheartedly. I’ll leave the error up and just make an edit- so this discussion makes more sense.