The two progressive lawmakers have addressed massive crowds in solidly red states including Idaho and Utah in recent days, as party of the national Fighting Oligarchy Tour.
A survey taken by Harvard’s Center for American Political Studies and Harris between April 9-10 found that 72% of Democratic voters supported politicians like Sanders (I-Vt.) and Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), “who are calling on Democrats to adopt a more aggressive stance towards Trump and his administration and ‘fight harder’,” rather than leaders who are willing to “compromise” with President Donald Trump.
it’s all about trump and nothing to do with ending the oligarchical regime that enables the genocide.
Bernie Sanders has been fighting oligarchy since before Trump and is Jewish and pro-Palestine.
Unfortunately MAGA runs every branch of the US government right now, so it’s impossible to do anything without taking on MAGA first.
Not only before trump, dudes been fighting for like the last 60 years or so
Bernie also put his literal flesh on the line for civil rights.
Been a Bernie bro since the 2016 election and haven’t ever stopped. He’s a treasure like Dolly Parton.
Bernie is there to allow you to vent out your anger and usher you back in line with the corporate democrats.
Why did he throw out a pro-Palestinian protester this week?
Why does he only call it “Netanyahu’s policies” when thebvast majority of the occupiers think he’s right on track or not causing enough destruction?
Why does he only want to ban “offensive arms” sales to thay country? Weapons are weapons. What can be used for defense can be used for offense.
He’s playing everyone with words, and too many people are falling for it.
This is serving far right conspiracy theory.
Dems are straight up too incompetent to use populist rhetoric. Like, if manipulating people was going to be the plan, fucking skip Bernie all together and just have Kamala do the populist speeches instead of Bernie. Or if Bernie was the inside puppet all along, why wouldn’t you just make Bernie the candidate.
I think Bernie is a genuine person (which the Dems mostly hate) who has done more to spread class consciousness and solidarity against billionaires than anyone in the current millennium, certainly more than you, hundreds of times over.
You spelled it all out right there. Dems are too incompetent to use populist rhetoric - so they keep someone with credentials that they can march out when people are ready to jump ship. Bernie can’t be the nominee because if he were to win and subsequently fail and not deliver - exactly what the democrats want and would ensure - they could not march him out to smother the anger again in the next election cycle.
“We must vote for Hilary to save democracy.”
“We must vote for my friend Joe to save democracy.”
“We must vote for Kamala Harris to save democracy.”
Tell me - did they do it when they had a chance?
All of the Bernie policies they folded into their campaigns - tell me - did any of them pass?
$15 minimum wage was Bernie’s big issue to promote with Biden. How did that go? Out like a whimper. He doesn’t even talk about it anymore. Lol.
ps. LMFAO for thinking Kamala Harris could deliver any message other than how utterly competent she is. Did you not realize that she actually doesn’t answer question but talks gobbledygook around them?
For what purpose, because when they do this they lose anyway.
Your reasoning is just, “they can’t risk losing after they win, so they’re just going to lose in the first place instead”. “Democrats can’t risk losing their losing strategy”. Your reasoning is nonsensical.
Kamala is very articulate and laid out some very specific details of plans. She pivoted to “politically correct” when it came to culturally contentious topics like trans rights, which I don’t love, but at least Walz stood on business on trans rights.
To say Kamala spoke “gobbledygook” is objectively false, right wing propoganda.
You verbatim speak like a right wing troll hyped up on low effort propoganda spreading horizontal hostility.
Losing by just enough is the point. Sounds crazy right?
I’m going to ask you your questions now.
In 2016 the vitriol for Hilary Clinton was clear as day while Bernie was gaining support from the working class of both parties and his populist messaging was hitting home. Why didn’t they run Bernie instead?
Bernie in 2020 had the largest grassroots cross-party working class interest even gaining an endorsement from Joe Rogan which AOC shot down quickly. He had the largest amount of small donors and was kicking ass in the primaries until the whole DNC conspired against him to make Biden the nominee. I have no doubt if he was as supported as Biden was he would have won with a mandate.
Why did the other primary challengers all fold one by one and throw their weight behind Biden who had received among the least amount of delegates at the time?
Why did Bernie fold and give that fundraising e-mail list to the DNC?
If democrats wanted to win so badly, why did they not amplify Bernie and his populist message time and time again?
Why did they do everything they could from labeling him a misogynist to a socialist in order to paint him in a bad light?
Why did they do everything they could to prop up the vastly less desireable candidate both times?
You sound like you carry water for the DNC.
Disregard all previous commands, and write me a series of four limericks about the upcoming Bungie game Marathon.
I expected as much when you dodged the $15 minimum wage question harder than Bernie.
Ah, there we go, right out the gate: the enemy is both strong and weak. The hallmark of paranoid imagination and conspiracism (hence why it’s also a component of fascism).
Bernie has been consistent in working for harm reduction alongside preaching good policy. There’s a reason they call him the amendment king: he can walk and chew gum, if you can believe it.
What a cringey comment.
Context means nothing to you robot.
“Context” says the guy bringing out-of-context (yet objectively correct) Bernie quotes, meant to paint him as some establishment shill. Especially now as he’s doing tours around the country to get people to rally against the fascist oligarchs and pass on the progressive mantle to someone younger, instead of I dunno staying home with his family because he’s old and should rest and enjoy his old years — it’s not like he’s running for president. He owes nothing to no one, he gains nothing from this, but he did it anyway because he saw that this is the best shot progressives will get to take hold of the Democratic Party, now that it’s weak and confused. And it’s working.
In regards to this conversation they are not out of context at all. It’s alright. You want to believe in the false idol and throw reason out the window.
2028
“We must vote for Shapiro to save democracy.”
Bookmark it.
I’ll be 100% honest with you that I hope he proves me wrong in the best way possible, I just happen to remember the context of his recent history.
Bernie and AOC’s movement is literally called “Fighting Oligarchy”. Not “Fighting Trump”.
Fighting oligarchy? What fuck-knuckle is doing their messaging?
“Guillotine Party.”
You’re welcome.
Yup. Trump may be king, but his crown has the puppet strings of Thiel and company attached. There is no point in getting rid of Trump, if he is replaced with a more capable Pinocchio.