Didn’t they US used to send special forces out to rescue people like that in the past?

  • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
    10·
    5 days ago

    If we can’t get this prisoner back then you and me are next.

    If they are going to illegally kidnap you and bring you to El Salvador then it’s probably best to try to kill them and then escape to Canada.

    • themeatbridge@lemmy.world
      10·
      5 days ago

      Literally zero victims sent to El Salvador received a trial or due process of any kind. None of them. They were identified by ICE and summarily deported. This one guy is a test case because it was proven to be a mistake, but dozens of others don’t even have enough of a paper trail to examine. 90% had no criminal record. Even if he is returned, the administration has proven that they are willing and capable of eliminating anyone.

        • themeatbridge@lemmy.world
          1·
          5 days ago

          No, that’s… it’s like the whole story. He’s in a concentration camp in El Salvador for no legal reason. None of them can leave because it’s a prison, and they may be dead. They can’t come back from Venezuela because that’s not where they were taken after being abducted.

      • bluegreenwookie@bookwormstory.socialEnglish
        3·
        5 days ago

        It honestly wouldn’t surprise me if they just killed us prisoners sent there since the deal they made i believe is for life

        And if the gov didn’t but the guy did have gang ties the gags almost certainly killed him

  • catloaf@lemm.eeEnglish
    4·
    5 days ago

    They’ve definitely extracted Americans held in other countries before (I just rewatched Argo last night), but that order has to come from the president. And he’s the one that wanted people deported in the first place.

    • entwine413@lemm.ee
      12·
      5 days ago

      Dude is a citizen of El Salvador, though. That makes it more complicated. Going in and extracting him could easily be treated as an act of war.

      Trump’s only real tool would be to negotiate his return, either by offering them something, or threatening them.

      Unless going to war is the plan, which I find unlikely.

      • okgurl@lemmy.world
        2·
        5 days ago

        doesn’t matter.he needs to capitulate to them to get the guy back.

        it was his departments fuck up after all, as so ordered by the highest court in the land. it’s his job to do whatever it takes to get the man back. we certainly have leverage; I think it’s just trump doesn’t want to and is using this to conviently ignore a court order. That’s why he said ‘hes helping us out’. shipping them to another country helps him do fascist things and shove off the blame. It’s like if the Nazis held their camps in Ethiopia or some shit idk

        anyone who isnt outraged over this is imo… in for a nasty surprise. this will keep ramping up, innocent people will keep getting sent to El Salvador and when not even the supreme Court can stop it

        what’s the point of any of this? what are we doing here? seriously I cannot believe how ignorant, short sided, and hateful my fellow Americans are becoming. this is the end of the American experiment, it’s that simple. We’ve failed every test.

        every founding founder would be rolling over in their graves, but if they could e tasted a fraction of the immense wealth and power our current oligarchs hold. I’m sure they’d do the same thing

      • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        1·
        5 days ago

        Frankly, if there is any country right now that needs an invasion, El Salvadore seems to be at the top of the list. You running a gulag where you dump people with indefinite sentences and no due process? Yeah, I think it’s time to coup your ass.

  • octopus_ink@slrpnk.netEnglish
    2·
    5 days ago

    Didn’t they US used to send special forces out to rescue people like that in the past?

    That’s only when you have functioning institutions and a commander in chief that cares about people.

  • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
    1·
    5 days ago

    Didn’t the court order that Rubio has to facilitate? Get your ass over there and start kissing another presidents ass Rubio. You are damn good at it.

  • wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works
    1·
    5 days ago

    Didn’t they US used to send special forces out to rescue people like that in the past?

    You’ve watched too much Jack Ryan/Tom Clancy propaganda.

    • SeaJ@lemm.ee
      1·
      5 days ago

      It’s only been five years since we did that exact thing in Nigeria…