• RNAi [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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      Yeah I only learned here on hexbear that despite his works were foundational now it’s mostly dismissed

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        Freud popularized the idea that psychology can be analyzed and scientifically studied, and kickstarted that process by making up an incredible amount of weird shit, so the early psychologists would have things to debunk.

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          I understand he wrote a lot of things based purely on vibes, I sure hope those vibes aren’t taken as Holy Word instead of scientifically proven/disproven/“meh impossible to check”

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            The sort of tragic part of Freud is that most of it wasn’t purely vibes, a lot of his early patients were women and he was deeply involved in actually helping them through therapy, and he kept noticing that these women he was working with had a bunch of fucked up trauma around sexual assault and things like that. At first he based a lot of his theories around the idea that yeah maybe those women actually were being sexually assaulted at an insane rate and it was super common in society and that would perfectly explain a bunch of the fucked up shit he was seeing in his therapy sessions, published that, got laughed out of the room by everybody else who was like “no way that many women experienceremoved and sexual assault, that’s insane bro” and then he came up with his current theories to explain why all these women kept exhibiting the symptoms he saw without having to actually believe that there really was rampant awful sexual assault against women in his society. This is called his “seduction theory,” where he proposed that most of the stuff that was the Oedipal complex and things like that derived from real sexual assaults during childhood against women and men.

            I therefore put forward the thesis that at the bottom of every case of hysteria there are one or more occurrences of premature sexual experience, occurrences which belong to the earliest years of childhood, but which can be reproduced through the work of psychoanalysis in spite of the intervening decades. [from Freud’s paper “The Aetiology of Hysteria”]

            Is what he wrote on this subject originally. He presented this to the scientific community and they told him “impossible, you’re an idiot.” Tragic, because his intuitions were right.