• RNAi [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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      I heard that psychologist in Argentina are much more into Freud than elsewhere and that’s bad for some reason

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          Yeah I only learned here on hexbear that despite his works were foundational now it’s mostly dismissed

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            Freud popularized the idea that psychology can be analyzed and scientifically studied, and kickstarted that process by making up an incredible amount of weird shit, so the early psychologists would have things to debunk.

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              I understand he wrote a lot of things based purely on vibes, I sure hope those vibes aren’t taken as Holy Word instead of scientifically proven/disproven/“meh impossible to check”

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                The sort of tragic part of Freud is that most of it wasn’t purely vibes, a lot of his early patients were women and he was deeply involved in actually helping them through therapy, and he kept noticing that these women he was working with had a bunch of fucked up trauma around sexual assault and things like that. At first he based a lot of his theories around the idea that yeah maybe those women actually were being sexually assaulted at an insane rate and it was super common in society and that would perfectly explain a bunch of the fucked up shit he was seeing in his therapy sessions, published that, got laughed out of the room by everybody else who was like “no way that many women experienceremoved and sexual assault, that’s insane bro” and then he came up with his current theories to explain why all these women kept exhibiting the symptoms he saw without having to actually believe that there really was rampant awful sexual assault against women in his society. This is called his “seduction theory,” where he proposed that most of the stuff that was the Oedipal complex and things like that derived from real sexual assaults during childhood against women and men.

                I therefore put forward the thesis that at the bottom of every case of hysteria there are one or more occurrences of premature sexual experience, occurrences which belong to the earliest years of childhood, but which can be reproduced through the work of psychoanalysis in spite of the intervening decades. [from Freud’s paper “The Aetiology of Hysteria”]

                Is what he wrote on this subject originally. He presented this to the scientific community and they told him “impossible, you’re an idiot.” Tragic, because his intuitions were right.

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        In France too we have a Freud problem, both from what I’ve been told and from what I’ve experienced. In fact when I started seeking an autism diagnosis (which I still don’t have), the first psychiatrist I went to (whom I had seen for some other stuff previously) ended up saying something along the lines of: “Yes, you do correspond to diagnostic criteria for ASD, but I don’t believe in the usefulness of a medical diagnosis. Anyways, Freud said that neurosis […].” I’m barely exaggerating.

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          As part of my treatment I got tested for a bunch of psychological issues. One of them was an autism test where the psychologist said she had to work on some paperwork and conspicuously brought in a box full of toys to see which of them my adult ass would play with while she sat back and took notes on how i reacted. I directly told her that this was obviously some kind of test and my knowledge of that would ruin any validity of testing whether i liked blocks or this electronic gizmo (That was out of batteries) more, she said that no she just had some paperwork and this was normal. After the obvious test was over she took away the toy box and never did it see a toy box again except when I moved and they lost the paperwork and tested me for autism again THE EXACT SAME WAY.

          I know thats not strictly relevant, but…

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      Psychology is a very popular/overcrowded career in Argentina, so much so that even cops study it and then moonlight as shrinks

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      I remember El Trece tried to do a soap opera emulating it and failed miserably because they hired soap operas writers and actors

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          Feel free to google it, “El Capo” (Argentina)

          There’s also an “El Capo” from Colombia whose main role is also the bad guy from “La Venganza de Analía” a soap opera so stupid it’s unreal

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    i know a lot of german students who study psychology in netherlands because getting into the study in germany is harder/more limited, so much so that it’s a meme/joke that every german is a psychologist