How do these Natalists feel about the African continent?

  • chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    The problem with declining population is the huge bubble pop you get when the population is mostly elderly people and few workers.

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          8 months ago

          Immigration isn’t ‘outsourcing childbirth’, it’s investing in the future of our country. People who come here, build lives, and raise families contribute just as much to our communities as anyone born here. Their children are American in every meaningful way. That’s not a loophole, that’s the foundation of our nation. If we start drawing lines around who counts as a ‘real’ solution based on origin, we’re moving away from what has always made America strong.

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            8 months ago

            I think their point is that you then have to rely on other populations to breed workers for you which in the long term is not sustainable.

            I could be wrong though. I’m a soft anti-natalist myself, but I do think an aging population is going to cause problems.

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        Maybe in the west. Not in places like South Korea or Japan. Even if you got the populations to buy in to immigration 100%, you’ve got an impossible task convincing immigrants to learn the language.

        English’s hegemony over the world makes immigration to non-English-speaking areas a huge problem. Quebec, for example, tries mightily to force immigrants to learn French and the results are quite ugly in Quebec politics.

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          you’ve got an impossible task convincing immigrants to learn the language.

          Do we? The languages aren’t that hard, people learn languages all the time especially if they move.

          Just make it a requirement for citizenship, offer classes, etc. I’m picking up 2 languages right now, 1 for work and 1 for my new home in Europe. The human brain does things.

          Quebec, for example, tries mightily to force immigrants to learn French and the results are quite ugly in Quebec politics.

          Ok, so I actually speak some french (from school), and that’s not about it not being English, it’s just that French is a shit language to push for no reason.

          Tell Quebec to switch to Spanish, everyone will be happier.

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            8 months ago

            Most people don’t want to learn another language they want to do other stuff.

            Example: me, I want to do other stuff.

        • Aoife@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          8 months ago

          I mean you’re presupposing that it’s important to convince immigrants to learn the language. Maybe multiculturualism is okay actually