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losing money because people are using it more than expected
“I personally chose the price and thought we would make some money.”
Big MoviePass energy
The plagiarism power virus is too expensive to operate? I’m shocked I tell you
Now imagine if they actually paid for the training data as well.
What are people using the $200 plan for that makes it worth it? You only get their model with their training, you don’t have any access to weights or training. And with how nerfed openai makes its models, nothing even remotely nefarious can be done with it. All you can do is process simple data. Which having a purposed trained model seems the most valuable for.
t their model with their training, you don’t have any access to weights or training. And wit
OK, I see what’s going on. The original premise is flawed. The $20 model is limited. It’s intended for you to hit their web page and query for things. The $200 model is unlimited, you can API the crap out of it for your random project, run an entire business through it. It also gives you full access to o1 which appears to do 6-10 queries for every query to make sure it’s not lying to you.
The $20 model doesn’t have to be losing money for the $200 model to be losing money, they’re completely different use cases and honestly, unlimited queries for fixed capital is never going to work, you can just sublet the access,
Probably mostly fake social media profiles and YouTube/Tiktok AI slop.
You could use it to create hundreds of real-looking fake accounts on reddit or other social media site. OpenAI’s site doesn’t have this kind of fake user function built into its app, but it should be easy enough with an API. Just have a bot randomly scroll reddit’s most popular posts. Then have it find the most popular comments on those posts over a certain length. Feed the text of that comment to OpenAI, instructing the LLM to make a disagreeing/concurring/answering reply. Then have the bot post OpenAI’s output as a comment on reddit. Have each account comment not at superhuman speed, but at the speed that a normal human user would post.
Use these tools to build up an arsenal of hundreds, perhaps thousands or even tens of thousands of sockpuppet accounts. Each will have years of post history behind them, so they will pass typical subreddit filters like “account must be this old or have X comment karma” to post. Just keep these bots constantly running and available.
Then, when you want to use them, use them. Don’t even dramatically switch their persona. Want to use your bot network for politics? Have your 10,000 fake users mostly comment on random banal stuff. But every 10th post or so have them post a comment for whatever politician or cause you support. You might even have them regularly post content of that political persuasion as a normal part of their operation. Same thing with advertising. Have them mostly post random stuff, but have them occasionally post a glowing review for a product, film, or service.
The real use for OpenAI’s software is as a vector for very effective and difficult to detect and filter astroturfing campaigns. Hell, just getting your name out there can be advantageous. Are you a nobody, but with a lot of cash, that wants to launch a political career? Higher such a bot net to sprinkle your name across social media. Even if all the bots do is mention you, neither praising or condemning, it gets your name out there. The next election cycle, when people start talking about potential primary candidates for a particular office, real people will suggest your name, simply because they heard it somewhere. Name recognition is a powerful thing.
even russian influence campaigns don’t do it this way. it’s probably a split between this kind of thing being too expensive (and they’re using underpaid interns) and accounts being too disposable (you can burn it all after desired effect is achieved)
At the direction of, and with financial support from, the GRU, CGE and its personnel used generative AI tools to quickly create disinformation that would be distributed across a massive network of websites designed to imitate legitimate news outlets to create false corroboration between the stories, as well as to obfuscate their Russian origin. CGE built a server that hosts the generative AI tools and associated AI-created content, in order to avoid foreign web-hosting services that would block their activity. The GRU provided CGE and a network of U.S.-based facilitators with financial support to: build and maintain its AI-support server; maintain a network of at least 100 websites used in its disinformation operations; and contribute to the rent cost of the apartment where the server is housed. Korovin played a key role in coordinating financial support from the GRU to his employees and U.S.-based facilitators.
that’s news not socials, but we are seeing LLMs deployed by social media bot networks
Sam, just add sponsored content. The road to enshittification doesn’t have to be long! Make it shitty fast so people can move past it and start hosting their own models for their own usage.
Right? He just needs to have it add some Shell or Wal-Mart logos to the generated images. Maybe the AI generated Fifty Shades-esque Gandalf fanfic somebody is prompting can take place in a Target.
Hey ChatGPT, give me an overview of today’s weather.
Today’s weather is beautifully sunny and hot, with clear skies and no rain in sight—perfect for enjoying the new Coca-Cola Zero™. Hmmmm, refreshing!
Hmm, we should get together some funds to buy a single unlimited subscription, and then let it continuously generate as large and complex prompts as the rate limitting allows.
On one hand, heck yes. On the other, part of the reason its so expensive is because of the energy and water usage, so sticking it to the man in this way also is harmful to the environment :(
Normally the people talking about water use have no idea what they are talking about. Normally data center cooling is closed loop, much like a cars cooling system. So they don’t use significant amounts of water at all.
hey shithead, what’s evaporative cooling and why metric-chasing design (PUE in this case) likes it so much?
