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Bush v. Gore was 25 years ago. You could irrefutably prove that Harris won all 50 states and it wouldn’t change anything.
You know what sure
Go nuts libs
Blue MAGA gonna MAGA
hell yeah
The funny thing is that it’s a lawsuit in New York, about New York voting machines. A state Kamala won. So the results of the suit actually don’t matter.
Typical dem modus operandi, before taking even a tiniest, puniest semblance of action, first triple check if it won’t have any actual effect.
It wasn’t rigged voting machines. She lost because I hated her and voted for PSL and I’ll fucking do it again. I am the only reason she lost
I am the one who votes
The election was already certified so all this will do is undermine confidence in our elections going forward. Well deserved but still
Yes but sadly only in a deranged anti-Russian conspiratorial “evil Russian commies led by Putin-Stalin-Hitler are destroying our democracy, we gotta nuke em” type way not a loss of faith in liberalism or introspection about what America is type way.
I’m sorry to go to Star Wars posting but there is something to be said about the understanding that the rebellion failed to win the peace because they just reproduced and tried to bring back the same failed republic which predictably failed again. These liberals are just trying to reproduce and bring back some imagined working, utopian version of liberalism and US-American political structure they imagine existed in the 20th century until around Obama and the big reactionary tantrum and/or Trump winning. They will inevitably not roll anything back meaningfully because Democrats aren’t interested in using power first of all and also because they have no revolutionary program they could use to do that so they’ll win elections again then be confused and angry and ever more conspiratorial about foreign enemies such as Russia/China as to why they can’t get things to go back to the good old days.
It’s a reflected image of American reactionary thought, really a different strain of reactionary “return” type yearning and propaganda which will be used to justify rigid adherence to militarism, imperialism, etc because those are still strong “institutions” in the American sense and they have been taught and still venerate them and believe in venerating them those institutions will save them from the scary Trump types and their imagined Putin/China foreign antagonists.
This conveniently leads them right into red scare type thinking and fearful belief in anything the military-intelligence propaganda mill pushes about other nations. It’s an antibody being created against increased exposure to how good things are in China and how bad things are in the US. A way to get them broadly onboard with censorship of any positive coverage of “bad nations”[tm] on the internet and the creation of an American firewall and internet censorship board to keep Americans in the dark or as they would phrase it “protect them from sinister Russian/Chinese disinformation campaigns” which they believe can sway elections and turn ordinary otherwise good folks into dangerous types who want to turn America into a dictatorship.
It’s impossible no one wanted to vote for our shitty candidate who was mean to protestors and promised working class people things would only get worse for them!
It could be a watergate type situation where they cheated an election they were already winning
Google seems to have scrubbed mentions of the time that Biden explicitly said that he doesn’t feel bad for young people. I was going to post a link here with a caption of “why don’t young people vote?”
But this is what we get.
You can’t scientifically prove Kamala Harris wasn’t popular so it must be that the election was stolen. Also we can’t prove that happened either. Anyway, Pete Buttigieg, everybody!
it doesnt matter if it was stolen, they confirmed the results and they’re stupid fetish for rule following will keep them from seeing the one thing they treat as legitimate political action is completely inert.
Seriously if you don’t do anything immediately after seeing Trump’s goons sneak into a polling station, then it’s not going to get better by waiting nearly a year. Or having Biden just ordering a drone strike on Trump because the Supreme Court ruled the president can commit crimes while in office.
Blue MAGA is so silly
Sure, the candidate whose voters were telling her for months why they’re not voting for her and how she can earn their votes (easily) and earnestly wanted her to earn their votes lost but it wasn’t her fault
I genuinely envy republican voters because in the abstract they always get the candidate they want who’ll give them exactly what they want, while we have to settle with ‘not the republican candidate + some treats’
I don’t care if they stole election or not. You had the usa government before 2024. You had billions if not trillions at your disposal and you could not make the election safe. You even have an example of this happening before (I don’t care if that election was stolen either). Who the fuck are you complaining to? God? Is there higher authority on us soil than us government?
Until someone has a really good technical explanation of how this would be theoretically possible I remain highly skeptical of these types of claims.
Not that it’s impossible for it to happen but in my own personal research or voting machines and how they work and the starlink connection. The internet is not used to send voting results anywhere. They’re loaded on the machine and have to be unloaded from the machine.
As far as I’m aware the internet connection is only used to update the options on the machines and can’t be used to comprise these machines.
That is the substack/blog post I saw about it earlier, that attempts to thread the needle on how it would be possible/what they theorize is going on.
On the one hand, it sounds plausible at first blush. And there are some very weird incestuous connections between the tech parties theoretically “involved”.
But on the other hand: the evidence/ detail in that post still feels light to me. The fact that the writer off-handedly mentions Trump and Musk as decades long Russian operatives immediately makes me recoil based on its adjacency to Russia gate hysteria.
Beyond that, If this were true, it would be a fairly large conspiracy with lots of moving parts—multiple companies and people working in concert over years towards a singular goal. An act that if outed, could result in treason charges and significant jail time across the board. My general sense is that the more complicated and large a conspiracy is, the less likely it is to be true, since each moving part adds to the risk of exposure, etc.
So anyway, there are some spooky things in the timeline, and some of Trumps and Musks comments from back then have always seemed weird to me, but I’m erring on the side of this needing a lot more corroboration before I take it seriously.
I appreciate the additional information.
I agree, Right now it feels like this conspiracy is a whole lot of conjecture without a whole lot of substance.
I couldn’t read the whole thing cause it was so crazy but the substack in the other comment does have a hypothesis about the logistics. There is more details in the link but basically they think it was done via power bar?
ES&S systems, including central tabulators and Electionware servers, rely on Tripp Lite UPS devices. ES&S’s Electionware suite runs on Windows OS, which automatically trusts connected UPS hardware.
If Eaton pushed an update to those UPS units, it could have gained root-level access to the host tabulation environment—without ever modifying certified election software.
I hope there is a talk about this clever attack at defcon or something.
I mean thats assuming default behavior and no hardening on the OS layer.
Still this is a super interesting attack vector and I would love to hear more about it. Here’s hoping we get a decent explanation at Defcon
I managed to hop through the rest of the substack. The author further speculates that Elon Musk can control UPSes from satellite using “lasers”. (Mention of which is a “breadcrumb” that those elites can’t help but leave for us.)
DTC doesn’t require routers, towers, or a traditional SIM. It connects directly from satellite to any compatible device—including embedded modems in “air-gapped” voting systems, smart UPS units, or unsecured auxiliary hardware.
From that moment on:
- Commands could be sent from orbit
- Patch delivery became invisible to domestic monitors
- Compromised devices could be triggered remotely
To support these ostentatious claims, they just have the graphs about how badly Kamala Harris lost. And of course the lack of evidence is actually evidence itself because of a perfect, error-proof “ballot scrubbing” technology; another hidden in plain sight clue. So forensic evidence is impossible. Hence the charts.
Hope they demo this whole chain of events during their talk (or in court), that would be cool. It would be a lot more convincing than all these loser charts.
starlink satellites! Elon musk! Russia! The enemy is both weak and powerfulDidn’t you hear Elon put a starlink satellite on the roof of the Whitehouse (after the election)
I can’t find the URL
Sorry I goofed on the link, should be fixed
That revelation is a shock to the public. But for those who’ve been digging into the bizarre election data since November, this isn’t the headline—it’s the final piece to the puzzle.
Couldn’t get thru the whole thing, I might try again later for fun. The language of the author makes me distrust their judgment.
sweeping last-minute updates to ES&S voting machines in the months leading up to the 2024 election
Tbh sounds like they should be advocating for some sort of top to bottom Free Software solution to this. Which might be too technocratic a solution but I’m terms of preventing any such theoretical attacks in the future would be a protection. Especially if there was an international collaboration on the project. It would require funding and commitment.
