We’re talking about the Abrahamic trio, so God is supposed to be all powerful. That means there is nothing beyond his power. There is no “can only” or “can’t” or “incapable” for him. He can have His cure and save the tree too, He doesn’t have to choose. Your example only works if God is limited in some capacity, and has to make trade offs that we can’t understand.
A parent can easily do their children’s homework. How does that benefit the kids? A passing mark doesn’t mean the kid understands and the lessons don’t get easier.
So we’re given the means to solve these tests. When we learn to work together to solve them, rather than “punishing” each other, we get closer to solving them. Disasters happen, whether natural or man-made. We either work together or we don’t. Test time.
No it isn’t. We may have to repeat lessons for a few lifetimes though. And everyone dies. We’re not meant to live forever.
I was like this for decades. Then I went hunting. When I made peace with myself, I made peace with God. that means it took looking in the mirror, and still does.
We may have to repeat lessons for a few lifetimes though.
We’re talking specifically about the Abrahamic trio. There aren’t multiple lifetimes, there’s one lifetime of suffering and then Judgement. What you’re talking about doesn’t apply to this discussion.
the Abrahamic trio, so God is supposed to be all powerful.
The funny thing is, the ancient Israelites almost certainly didn’t believe this. It was a more recent invention that’s obviously not supported by the old testament or the talmud.
We’re talking about the Abrahamic trio, so God is supposed to be all powerful. That means there is nothing beyond his power. There is no “can only” or “can’t” or “incapable” for him. He can have His cure and save the tree too, He doesn’t have to choose. Your example only works if God is limited in some capacity, and has to make trade offs that we can’t understand.
A parent can easily do their children’s homework. How does that benefit the kids? A passing mark doesn’t mean the kid understands and the lessons don’t get easier.
The “homework” you’re talking about is war, starvation, disease, rape, slavery, and death.
A parent is supposed to help their children, not torture them to death for a “lesson”.
We did that. It’s our mess to clean up.
Oh, but I never voted for that politician! Did we do anything besides vote and clicktivism?
Disease? Starvation? Disaster? Let us not pretend like God didn’t create human evil either. For what? For fun? “To teach us a lesson”?
The all powerful, all knowing God never seems to do anything either in case you haven’t noticed.
Btw, Alan Watts addressed some of this in The Book (on the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are). If you can be bothered.
So we’re given the means to solve these tests. When we learn to work together to solve them, rather than “punishing” each other, we get closer to solving them. Disasters happen, whether natural or man-made. We either work together or we don’t. Test time.
We aren’t given the means to solve every “test” - sometimes people just die in twisted agony because the test is impossible.
No it isn’t. We may have to repeat lessons for a few lifetimes though. And everyone dies. We’re not meant to live forever.
I was like this for decades. Then I went hunting. When I made peace with myself, I made peace with God. that means it took looking in the mirror, and still does.
We’re talking specifically about the Abrahamic trio. There aren’t multiple lifetimes, there’s one lifetime of suffering and then Judgement. What you’re talking about doesn’t apply to this discussion.
The funny thing is, the ancient Israelites almost certainly didn’t believe this. It was a more recent invention that’s obviously not supported by the old testament or the talmud.