Ken Hotate!
They killed Ken Hotate … the fuck is going on with the US
This is so freaking sad … I’m Indigenous in Canada and I loved seeing his character in Parks and Recreation.
I just browsed through this Facebook page and just this past February he proudly announced and showed pictures of marrying his gay partner.
Jonathan Joss was Two Spirited and he was just starting to project that in public … it’s so sad because now it makes me wonder what role all that identity played in his killing.
Fuck America … you can be so beautiful and great while being so terrible and ugly at the same time.
I used to provide rural healthcare to the tribal nations here in Oklahoma. I was always blown away to hear just how many of my patients had lost loved ones to violence, and how many of the murders went unsolved.
I had a patient whose son was a tribal advocate who was protesting a case in Colorado and went missing. Their other son went up to get the police to do their jobs and ended up being murdered, both cases unsolved.
The endemic violence towards the native people of America has not stopped and has continued since before the founding of this country.
I also would be 100% unsurprised if the police were the murderers.
That’s what the parents suspected as well.
Years ago, it was the same here in Canada. 30/40 years ago it was all just listed as ‘drunk indian was killed’ and the excuse was often just a brawl, accident, unfortunate event caused by alcohol abuse. These days it’s not so prevalent or obvious … fewer people being killed … but more being beaten, abused or taken advantage of. Hotels/Motels in northern towns often have ‘Indian sections’ in them where native people are booked to keep them relegated and controlled, even if you are a clean cut Native person with a family and children.
drunk indian was killed’ and the excuse was often just a brawl, accident, unfortunate event caused by alcohol abuse.
That’s still a big thing down here.
Indian sections’ in them where native people are booked to keep them relegated and controlled, even if you are a clean cut Native person with a family and children.
Ahh Canada, everyone’s friendly neighbor until you get talking about indigenous people.
they still had re-education schools until 1998
It was 100% a hate crime and played every role, context: https://bsky.app/profile/willharrisinva.bsky.social/post/3lqnh5lqoz223
Ken Hotate
Fuck … this makes me laugh and cry at the same time … I really, really, really wish they had done more with his character or even built an entire series with him. So much lost talent it’s frustrating.
There are two things I know about white people: they love Matchbox 20 and they are terrified of curses.
Huh. Always thought i was white. Guess not!
Hotate was one of my favorite characters. I loved his relationship with Leslee.
you can be so beautiful and great while being so terrible and ugly at the same time.
I find this applies to humanity in general as well.
Wtf, I saw the thumbnail and thought “that guy looks just like Ken Hotate”, and here is your comment right there.
Damn that’s a blow, lost a real character in the world…
I am so sad. I love Ken even more than Rachel Ray, and I’m white!
I wouldn’t judge a country by who gets killed in it. Look up Tina Fontaine. I mean,every place in the world can be beautiful and ugly at the same time if you judge by what individual people in it do.
America has allowed this kind of shit to happen for centuries.
It’s openly endorsed it in the past, and is now doing so again.
Yeah, I will fucking judge the country by these actions. They come from the top.
FTFY
If you can’t find any beauty in what America has accomplished in 250 years, you’re being willfully ignorant. This country is in a desperately fucked up state right now, and it’s been even worse throughout history, but to pretend that the only version of America that exists is when we are at our very worst is just intellectually dishonest.
It’s been bad for as long as my people can remember.
Advance fascism across the globe? Make multiple trillionnaires and deepen the class divide into a chasm? Kill children through willing propagation of weapons? Spread opium everywhere? Develop a militaristic ethno state that sells weapons to genocidal maniacs, and uses them for genocide themselves?
I’m all for pointing out everything currently and historically wrong with any country, but you’re doing the “intellectually dishonest” thing. The question wasn’t whether you could point out a shitload of bad stuff, but whether you could see any good.
The British empire did a shitload of terrible stuff, that doesn’t mean leading the way in global industrialisation and bringing hundreds of millions out of starvation was one of them.
Germany has done terrible shit, but starting the predecessor to the EU and thereby heavily contributing to the most peaceful and prosperous eighty years western Europe has ever seen is usually seen as a good thing.
The US has done terrible shit, as you point out. Being a catalyst and inspiration for the global spread of democracy is usually seen as a positive. Being a core actor in the formation of the UN, helping build a post-WWII rule-based world order is usually also seen as a positive. US aid contributing hundreds of millions of people getting access to education, vaccines, medicine, and catastrophe-release is normally seen in a positive light.
Willful ignorance. Unless you seriously believe the US was not doing most of the terrible things I mentioned while doing the positives you brought up.
There aren’t any trillionaires yet if I’m not mistaken.
Ok, well that wasn’t my intention. You’re right, the US absolutely did all those other things.
Thank you for showing up at a post about the death of an artist so you could brag about how hot shit the USA is.
Just awesome. Keep the hits coming.
No, the other person showed up at a post about the death of an artist just to turn it into an anti-America post instead of being about the artist.
Yes, the US has issues, and maybe the bad outweighs the good, but as the other comment says there is some good there too. I don’t see why the comment above decided to move the comments in this direction, but it’s not the comment you’re responding to’s fault.
It was a hate crime murder. Seems the US is a shit place for gay people to live to me.
More, horrifying context: https://bsky.app/profile/willharrisinva.bsky.social/post/3lqnh5lqoz223
Holy fucking shit this context should be on every news outlet
Yeah I just went looking for other reactions on Bluesky as this was shocking and really bothersome, but that was without the context. With it, it’s 10x worse.
I shouldn’t have had to dig replies deep into a different article to find this, shows what an insane chilling effect this current political climate has. This was 100% a hate crime and a targeted harassment campaign, and it’s not even mentioned.
Well that’s absolutely horrible.
Arson, killing and displaying dogs, then murder all because you’re afraid of gay people.
Didn’t you know that you can catch ‘the gay’ just by being in the same vicinity?
A workmate of mine is gay and I can’t be in the same room as him…and his chiselled jaw! And his toned hunky physique without feeling all giddy inside. He’s obviously using his gay magic on me!!!
I wonder what he’s doing right now? Do you think he’s thinking about me?Anyways, yeah, gay magic is contagious!!
I’m American and I will never go to Texas.
Fucking hell. And some people say ‘we don’t need pride any more’. We need it now more than ever
Summary for non account holders?
I could read it without an account.
Slide 1
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Ty. The link forces the use of the app if it’s downloaded. Otherwise it opens via web (had to delete the app)
When we returned to the site to check the mail, we discovered the skull of one of our dogs and it’s harness placed in clear view.
Nope. Nope. Nope. I quit reading there. Homophobia, arson, and that in a paragraph.
He voiced John Redcorn for those who don’t want to click through to TMZ:
Joss was the voice of John Redcorn in “King of the Hill.” He also landed a big part in “Parks and Recreation” as Chief Ken Hotate. And he had small roles in TV shows such as “Tulsa King,” “Ray Donovan,” and films like “True Grit” and “The Magnificent Seven.”
Murdered. He was murdered by someone committing a hate crime. Get it right.
Yes. On the first day of pride. It is rather telling that the articles I’ve seen all left out the homophobic slurs right before the murder.
They’re either owned or cowards. Pathetic either way.
It’s not a matter of “or”, but a matter of “and”.
Murdered by a homophobic piece of absolute scum of the earth shit.
I hope they throw the book at him, but I know how America is right now, he will probably be working in the government by next week.
It was a terrorist attack, but you’l never hear the media call this guy a terrorist.
The terrorist’s goal was to let the neighborhood know that if you aren’t straight and cis, you aren’t welcome.
Damn! Fucking America with every lunatic having access to guns.
RIP Jonathan Joss
Dang, and his house just caught fire too:
Too many of the show’s VAs met an untimely end.
Joss told KSAT he had issues with electricity after the home was vandalized. He had been staying in a hotel to keep warm.
“Mistakes happen, man. And it’s my fault for, I guess, leaving something on,” Joss said. “Or if somebody came in and did something, who knows?”
House vandalized, then burned down, then shot dead… feels like a pattern of someone desperate to get him off the property.
No way this is coincidence.Edit- I shouldn’t have stated last line without evidence, of course it’s possible this is an isolated series of most unfortunate events.
Im not saying it’s not something more sinister, but this can 100% be a coincidence.
Home is vandalized and copper is stolen, leading to electrical problems. He comes home, either leaves the propane stove on by accident, leaves the gas tank on by accident, leaves a bad circuit on by accident, someone comes in and does something, or just random coincidence that that’s when an electrical fire starts.
Flash forward 6 months and he’s probably still crushingly low, gets into an argument with his neighbour that gets hotter than it would’ve if he was feeling better and he’s in dumb fuck America so everyone has a point and click murder tool in their waist band and gets killed rather than punched.
We don’t even know if they were the same houses.
You’re right, incorrect of me to say it “can’t be coincidence”, but still quite an odd, near direct, escalating string of events imo. I had assumed it was the same property because both articles mention a “south side San Antonio home”
I mean, if it was a sinister plot, the neighbour getting into an argument and shooting him on his front lawn in broad daylight would be a rather inept conclusion.
It may be that there were tensions because the neighbour blamed him for burning the house next to his down or something. Misery tends to beget misery in numerous ways, it’s often not nefarious.
Yeah, and the dog’s skull and harness was also a coincidence. It might have been a different dog with an identical harness, and their dog might have actually been just fine.
Why do people still give these garbage people the benefit of the doubt
Add together cheap and easily obtainable handguns, NRA gun == macho manhood culture, and stress from the house fire and that’s already a volatile mix.
Not even considering whether drugs, alcohol, and racism were involved.
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Nope, you were right: https://bsky.app/profile/willharrisinva.bsky.social/post/3lqnh5lqoz223
Holy fuck. I’m glad his husband was able to escape… You know, I’m staunchly anti-death penalty but I’m prepared to put my principles aside for this one. Hang this asshole at high noon.
I read they had received arson threats. Their dog died in the fire. Then the dog’s skull and harness were displayed like a trophy in front of the house.
It was premeditated, hate crime arson.
(Followed by murder)
Undoubtedly at this point. There’s been a lot of horrific details coming out since I posted my initial conjecture. No outlet was reporting on the history of harassment at the time.
It turns out that’s likely the case, at least going by the surviving husband’s public statement.
JFC. Damnit. Fuck Texas.
Edit: Jonathan’s widower has provided a statement. He was murdered for being gay. Fuck. Texas.
My buds and I met him at a local comic con. He told us he’d meet us out back and hang with us if we bought him a beer. So, we went and got beers and met up with him. Got selfies with him and a video of us all doing the “yep” thing with our beers. Super fun guy.
As if I needed another reason to never set foot in Texas, fuck man
This happened kind of close to where my partner and I live. The general sentiment from a lot of people in the area has been getting worse and worse. I know some folks have always felt that way, but it’s so brazen now. We’re always scared when we have to leave the house. There’s been violence.
King of the Hill is one of our favorite shows, it’s all hitting us pretty hard. Both that someone we admired the work of was killed in such a horrible way, and that it happened so close to home.
Remember, the only good Republican is a dead Republican.
Dead potentially meaning left the party and stopped voting for them… right?
Fuck owning guns and fuck owning guns for personal protection.
Handguns are the dumbest fucking thing in the world for society to allow. Lets make killing someone as easy as pressing a button at a distance! That’s gotta a be a good necessary thing for anyone to do on a whim.
At a time when our government is increasingly fascist and it’s clear they want to eliminate classes of people, I’m thinking the wrong people have been buying the guns.
Armed people cannot defend themselves against the logistics of any organised force.
What people with guns can do against fascism is hide & covertly attack guerrilla/terrorist style so that the confrontation doesn’t allow oppressing force to use it’s force/time/reach/etc.
I do not mean that as a bad or un-heroic thing, just as the last resort of protest.
But this situation would not turn out any better had there been more guns involved. Only in case of 0 guns the situation might have been better.
Oh yeah, good luck fighting the army with your handguns.
You don’t overthrow armies by lining up and going toe-to-toe.
A handgun is concealable. If we need guns, we need to appear anonymous until we’re using them up close.
And you don’t target soldiers. You target those behind them.
We need to widely allow handguns because of all the progress that’s constantly made from assassinating politicians with handguns?
Please do list all the politicians assassinated by handguns and how much progress that made. I’ll follow with a list of activists murdered by handguns.
Let’s see whose is longer.
That’s the thing about guns. They’re evil until they’re necessary. But then they’re essential.
We still aren’t at the point where we need to start using them en masse, but we’ve never been closer as a nation, and it’s absolutely time to start learning how to use them.
Please cite the incidents in which owning a personal pistol has been essential and why. I will follow with a list of political activists who have been assassinated with pistols owned by idiots.
Let’s see whose is longer.
I agree; the laws need to be relaxed to allow full auto sales.
Lmfao, enjoy the half second you have firing a tommy gun in the air before an ai drone with an anti tank mine zip tied to it blows to pieces you and everyone you love.
Civil wars are not won by cowards carrying pistols at walmart. They’re mostly won by external governments supplying one side with insurmountable fire power and sometimes won by using tactics and strategy to win the hearts and minds of people and rally them to you.
Yeah, a family with all the guns doesn’t stand a chance against a few musket-wielding soldiers - they can just outwait them around the house.
It’s not a 5 minute fight when you are dealing with an organised force. Civilians will fold after a week without supermarket access/water/electricity/food.
I 100% agree we need way more restrictions when it comes to firearms, but it is absolutely necessary for people to have a firearm for their own protection. I personally know activists, especially LGBT rights activists, who’s life depended on that side holster of theirs and are still here to this day because of it.
Canada, the UK, Europe, Australia, New Zealand would all show that what you’re saying is false.
This argument is nonsense pushed forward by the gun industry to try and get leftists on their side. Allowing for activists to freely own handguns means that counter activists will which makes everyone less safe.
Allowing for activists to freely own handguns means that counter activists will which makes everyone less safe.
Order of operation is a bit mixed up here.
No, the order of operations does not matter because both sides lead back to the other. That’s called a feedback loop and you are participating in it rather than breaking out of it.
The only way to win the game of ‘whose going to be safest by buying more guns’ is not to play.
This argument is nonsense pushed forward by the gun industry to try and get leftists on their side.
I was speaking from my own experience, that didn’t come from any industry or organization. If it did I would’ve said something like “we need fewer gun restrictions!!” I’m speaking personally and sharing my experiences as an activist. It’s what made me start to carry for me and my peers safety based off what I have previously told you. Because I also believe that my queer friend wouldnt still be here if not for her firearm.
But I absolutely protest for greater gun restrictions and want to actually allow the CDC to investigate gun violence. Because, yes, the CDC isn’t allowed to.
It’s worth drawing the distinction between ‘if guns are allowed, activists should consider carrying’ vs ‘guns should be allowed so that activists can carry’.
The former I agree with, the latter I think is nonsense.
People over estimate how cool and collected they are.
The other day some asshole was letting his dog shit on the sidewalk and not picking it up. I saw. He saw me see. We made eye contact. He called me a coward and walked away.
In that moment I was emotionally ready to murder him. Just put his smug ass on the ground with his dog shit. Luckily, I don’t carry a gun so I just yelled at him. But if I had a gun on me? No way the scene would have gone better.
In that moment I was emotionally ready to murder him.
This says more about you specifically than it does the entire population.
I’ve carried a gun for almost 10 years, and in that time I’ve had all kinds of interactions from people calling me mean names, people cutting me off, actual bad accidents caused by dumbassery on their part, a guy pulling a knife who decided to leave before getting shot, and everything in between, I’ve never wanted to kill anyone. There were a few times I was scared I might have to, like the guy pulling the knife, but I’ve always been relieved it hasn’t had to happen. You should not own a gun if someone calling you a mean name is enough to send you into a murderous rage, but not everyone is like you.
enough people are like me that carrying guns should not be as easy as it is. We can trade counter anecdotes all we want, but I think the frequency of mass shootings and other gun violence in the US supports my position better than yours.
I think the frequency would be much higher if it did actually, what with the 600,000,000+ guns in 45ish% of the population’s hands.
There’s a pretty big gulf between yelling at someone and shooting them… Had you considered non life-threatening physical force? Or do you always go right to murder
The point of the anecdote was that when people get really mad, they don’t think rationally. If I had a gun, it would have been really easy in that moment to pull it out and use it. That’s too easy.
(Though yes, I did briefly consider picking up his dog’s shit with a plastic bag of my own, and hitting him in the face with it, but by then I had cooled down enough to realize I didn’t want to potentially ruin my life by assaulting a guy on the street.)
Counterpoint:
Maybe it would have.
I thought I just read about King of the Hill. https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/37633255
Yep, this is a sad shame, but if he returns in this reboot season all of his lines have likely been recorded already.
RIP John Redcorn
Another article for those having issues with the TMZ site:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/jonathan-joss-fatally-shot-1.7550346
I was looking at the Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Joss
On January 23, 2025, Joss lost his San Antonio home, as well as three dogs (with a fourth missing) when his house caught fire.[8][9] Joss says he was using a propane heater and had left the house. “Mistakes happen, man. And it’s my fault for, I guess, leaving something on,” Joss said. “Or if somebody came in and did something, who knows?” [8] He attended the 2025 ATX TV Festival in Austin, Texas with other King of the Hill cast members on May 29, 2025.[7] However, he says he was not invited to the panel, and an attendee on the social media site Reddit says that Joss interrupted the King of the Hill panel, bringing up his house burning down which he felt was intentionally burned down because of his homosexuality.
On June 1, 2025, Joss was approached by a neighbor who allegedly yelled homophobic slurs at Joss before shooting and killing him. The suspect was arrested shortly afterward.[7][10][11][12] The two neighbors have been subject to a longstanding feud going back years with police being called multiple times.[13] His death occurred just hours after he uploaded an Instagram video of himself walking around Austin and noting how he already recorded lines for 4 King of the Hill episodes.
Kern de Gonzales stated on Instagram afterwards that various people in the area had for years verbally assaulted them with homophobic slurs and threats to burn down their home.[14] Kern de Gonzales went on to say that the house had burned down after years of threats from their neighbors, threats to which the police had not responded, even after the threats had been reported by Gonzales and Joss.[11] On Joss’ Facebook page, Kern de Gonzales described the attack as a homophobic hate crime.
San Antonio Police Department released a statement saying “Our investigation has found no evidence whatsoever to indicate that the Mr. Joss’s murder was related to his sexual orientation.”
I always find it baffling when people do about like this. There’s no thought behind it, no plan, no exit strategy - they just get angry and do something stupid, and it’s just par for the course for humanity. It’s amazing we ever made it past the stone age.
Sometimes I wonder if the so called the ‘arc of the moral universe’ could turn out like Fukuyama’s concept of The End of History. Maybe we are the barbarian back water planet.
